I am a revert and feel Im becoming "extremist"

[dawood_beale]

I have tried to post this question on several forums and had it deleted as they are more concerned with "innapropriate posts" as opposed to helping a brother out so inshallah we shall see what happens here.

I reverted to islam alhamdulillah last year. Istarted off absolutely loving the religion. I still do. I first met sufi's. They were peaceful people but their shirk and bhidda irritated me so I looked elsewhere as this wasn't the islam I was looking for (it happens that my local area has sufi's but no orthodox muslims) after much study I feel the salafi way is more for me.

But although I feel great love and compassion for the ummah and Allah t'ala and his prophets and I live my brothers and sisters, as soon as it comes to the kuffur I hate them. I feel joy when a kuffur dies. I think (alhamdulillah) when a troup dies in afghanistan (Im british so see it on da news) I dont take pleasure in the suffering itself, I more like the fact that the kuffur decline in numbers and I feel a great sadness when a mu'min dies. This hasn't come from some hook handed preacher in east london mosque, its come from the attacks on palestine and afghanistan and iraq and hearing the kuffur belittle my religion 24/7 and peoplem always starting arguements with me and talking about how "opporessive" my religion is etc. Is it right for me to hate them (I came across a concept called wala bara or something). For instance. If I coudl stop the kuffur from having abortions (Hypothetically) shoudl I? If I do I am enforcing right and doing away with wrong. If I dont then I am letting the kuffur kill their own children but their numbers decline while the mu'min increase, which is great in countries like england where we can increase our number and influence as long as we stay true to our deen.

I am always hoping the kuffur and espcially the jews decline in their numbers.

Is it ok to want the enemies of islam to die? Een if they are only enemies of islam in heart and not actually doing anything except hoping the kuffur beat the muslims in afghanistan etc? Im not about to become a suicide bomber or anything but want to perfcet my deen but am heavily caught on what I shoudl believe on this particular issue and the kuffur dont help because its because of their attitude towards me and the ummah that I feel like this, I am happy to be a servant of allah and wish I knew what the right thing to do is so I could do it inshallah.

Both sides of the coin are welcome, I hope you dont delete this as I need to find answers, if the admin dont like this then please point me to another site where they will publish it and give me a balanced view and variety of viewpoints. Jazak Allahu khair. Assalamu alaykum wa rahmah tullahi wa barakatuhu.

[seeker_ikb]

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Is it ok to want the enemies of islam to die?
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If an enemy of Islam dies , he will go to hell.

If a man goes to the hell , the devil becomes happy.

If a man goes to the paradise , the devil becomes very very sad.

So , a Muslim should first try to bring an enemy of Islam from the darkness to light and shows him the shinning path to paradise.

If he refuses the offer and become determined to destroy Islam , only then you want him to get destroyed so that Islam can be spread to other misguided souls who might wake up and strive for the eternal abode in the paradise.

Let us put as many humans as possible on the highway to heaven !!!!!!!

[dawood_beale]

akhi I know your right that it is better that islam comes to someone rather than jahanam but the kuffur resent islam. I make dawah on all the kuffur near me all the time and my friends and co workers etc and i can tell you its rare that someone ses the light and takes shahada. I feel that as the population of kuffur decreases and the population of mu'min increases things loo better for us. Inshallah maybe one day Islam will be muslim but it requires all kuffur to die and mu'min to have babies and stay true to their deen and make dawah on teh kuffur who Allah wills shodl have their hearts turned to islam (like myself)

[dawood_beale]

and Im more thinking about the state of affairs on this planet. We already know there will be ridiculous ammounts of people burning in jahanam including all muslims who belong to sects. The true mu'min deserve a nice world, free from hostility from teh kuffu. I want to see islam victorious inshallah and I know tha the kuffur kill my brothers and sisters in palestine, afghanistan, iraq, etc etc

[abumusab]

Salaam

I don't like terms such as extremists or moderates. Either something is from Islam and is Islamic, or it's not.

There are basic principles which guide us from Islam:

Allah said in the Quran that "the disbelievers are an open enemy to you" (4.101) which means we have to be aware and cautious as when dealing with enemies such as the verse which state's that "Shaytaan is your enemy so treat him as such".

That does not mean we wish their destruction as we are required to carry Islam to them and the way to dimish their numbers is to bring them to Islam. Whenever the Muslim armies conquered the areas which are now Muslim today, the goal was never to wipe out the disbelievers there as that would have included our ancestors and we would not be here now. The goal rather was to liberate them from the darkness of disbelief and bring them to Islam to save them from their decadence in this life and the fire of the next.

As for the death of western troops by the Muslims resisting the invaders in Iraq, Afghanistran etc, then naturally all Muslims have positive feelings and we feel sick when we hear of entire families and villages which are wiped out by the beligerent enemies.

[not known]

Prophet used to feel sorry when some person died on kufr, and he used to be happy when some one accepts islam

we shouldnt be happy on the death of kuffar, we should feel sorry that we werent able to deliver the true message to them

[dawood_beale]

akhi thanks for your rpely I am interested to discuss further and appreciate you taking the time to post.

The fcat is that the ummah is in a bad way. While I acompletely aggree that conversion is completely preferable to death, we need to survive at the moment and the more kuffur die from natural disasters and things, the less their influence in the world. When we are strong then my attitude will change but with over 1million iraqi's dead my first concern is that our numbers dont decline faster than theirs.

I do accept taht when we can deliver the message we should though defo amin.

But I would suggets most dawah on teh kuffur doesn't work unless the ummah is strong like in the time of the rightly guided khallif may allah be pleased with them

[abulayl]

Inshallah maybe one day Islam will be muslim but it requires all kuffur to die

Brother, we dont want to have more muslim in this world by sending those kafir without iman in the hell. we want them as muslim and leaving this world by doing enough to getting the jannah inshallah. Allah subhanatu wataala can akhi, the problem is with us. we muslim now a days aren´t wellversed, lacking wisdom, missing the sorrow of prophet(sw) which he had for the ummah, and as a result it had effect in his(sw) dua for the ummah which we dont have in our duas.

[abulayl]

I feel joy when a kuffur dies.

once prophet(sw) was seated with sahaba(rd). suddenly a jews deathbody was crossing infront of prophet(sw). prophet(sw) started to cry like a baby, and sahaba(rd) said: ohh prophet(sw) this is death body of a jew, why you are crying?

He(sw) said: i am still living but one of my ummah has gone to hell-fire and i couldn´t help him.

so brother you can see, your joyness is against prophet(sw) sorrow and understanding.

[abulayl]

I make dawah on all the kuffur near me all the time and my friends and co workers etc and i can tell you its rare that someone ses the light and takes shahada.

akhi

our job is 2, doing dawah and dua. even people got hidayah just through the dua, and people didn´t get hidayah after long time dawah. so both part must be there. dont expect that people will become immediately muslim. there are some time and situation where non-muslim gotta think about their life, and at that moment your dawah effects that person to think more deeply about his current situation, the same is with non-practising muslim. people like me got dawah for long time, but changes become suddenly and not immediately. try to remove the misconceptions, try to show the good akhlaq of islam, let change ourself inshallah.Give them the feeling that we are worried about all human being. then inshallah our acts will be more powerful to others to think more than our words.