Imam Bukhari's discredit of Imam Abu Hanifa

[nuaym]

Some narrations in the Juz Raf ul Yadayn of Imam Bukhari to discredit Abu Hanifa (ra):

101- ولقد قال ابن المبارك: كنت أصلي إلى جنب النعمان (ابن ثابت) فرفعت يدي، فقال: ما خشيت أن تطير؟ فقلت: إن لم أطر في الأولى لم أطر في الثانية. قال وكيع: رحمة الله على ابن المبارك، كان حاضر الجواب. فتحير الآخر وهذا أشبه من الذين يتمادون في غيهم إذا لم يبصروا.


182- وسئل الأوزاعي وأنا أسمع عن الإيمان فقال: الإيمان يزيد وينقص، فمن زعم أن الإيمان لا يزيد ولا ينقص فهو صاحب بدعة فاحذروه.

[Abd'Al-Muqtadir]

It was well known that Imam Bukhari (RA) was a follower of the Shaf'i fiqh initally, which is way, Allahu Alam, Imam Bukhari (RA) collects hadiths for Raful Yaden. As we all know the Shaf'i Fiqh consists of Raful Yaden, so this can be the reason for Imam Bukhari (RA) collecting hadiths for Raful Yaden and not against Raful Yaden. Of course Allah best knows his intention. Also Imam Abu Haneefah (RA) was widely respected and held in a high position in the era of Imam Bukhari (RA). Hope that helps you

[a_muslim_bro]

Some narrations in the Juz Raf ul Yadayn of Imam Bukhari to discredit Abu Hanifa (ra):

101- ولقد قال ابن المبارك: كنت أصلي إلى جنب النعمان (ابن ثابت) فرفعت يدي، فقال: ما خشيت أن تطير؟ فقلت: إن لم أطر في الأولى لم أطر في الثانية. قال وكيع: رحمة الله على ابن المبارك، كان حاضر الجواب. فتحير الآخر وهذا أشبه من الذين يتمادون في غيهم إذا لم يبصروا.


182- وسئل الأوزاعي وأنا أسمع عن الإيمان فقال: الإيمان يزيد وينقص، فمن زعم أن الإيمان لا يزيد ولا ينقص فهو صاحب بدعة فاحذروه.

Akhi can you translate it in English, I always wanted to read the Juz unfortunately I cannot read Arabic. Imam Abu Hanifa (ra) had many scholars disagree with some of his ijtihads, but one must realize that he was not infallible, like the other 3 mujtahid imams his service to Islam should not be overlooked. The Muslim Sunni population is about 1 Billion, and approximately 30% of this population makes taqlid of his school = 300,000,000 that's pretty impressive.

May Allah raise his rank and the other imams and forgive them for any mistakes.

Wasalaam.

Wasalaam.

[Ali al-Hanafi]

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[godilali]

Actually, its more than 300 000 000. That's just the total number that follow his school in Bangladesh. Then there's Pakistan (about 280 000 000) and India (around 290 000 000) too not to mention some of the Arab countries, Turkey, etc.

Where are you getting these statistics from?

[ENIGMA]

It was well known that Imam Bukhari (RA) was a follower of the Shaf'i fiqh initally, which is way, Allahu Alam, Imam Bukhari (RA) collects hadiths for Raful Yaden. As we all know the Shaf'i Fiqh consists of Raful Yaden, so this can be the reason for Imam Bukhari (RA) collecting hadiths for Raful Yaden and not against Raful Yaden. Of course Allah best knows his intention. Also Imam Abu Haneefah (RA) was widely respected and held in a high position in the era of Imam Bukhari (RA). Hope that helps you

You trying to say Imam Bukhari intentionally kept out Sahih ahadith from his Sahih if the ahadith went against his school?

Are you trying to say, if there were/are Sahih ahadith on not doing raf al yadain, the Imam has intentionally left them out so to give support to the Shafi'i school?

That is ridiculous.

Unless im wrong in which case I apologise in advance.

[Colonel_Hardstone]

Asslamo Allaikum,

POINT ONE: Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) believed that Imaan neither increases nor decreases

While

POINT TWO: Imam Bukhari (RA) believed that Imaan does indeed increase and decrease

There have been many unsavoury things written about this difference of opinion and Imam Bukhari (RA) did indeed criticise Imam Al-Adham and Hanafees (RA) over this.

The simple explaination is that Imam Al-Adham Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) is a Jurist and he is talking about Eeman (as in Belief in Allah etc.) as a defacto belief which indeed DOES NOT increase or decrease. When you take someone to a court (Juristically) then you ascertain their Faith i.e. ask the person in a Court "Do you believe in Allah (SWT)"? There is no increase or decrease in this matter...you either believe in Allah (SWT) or you don't!

While Imamul-Muhaditheen Imam Bukhari (RA) is talking about quantity of Eeman e.g. someone our Eeman gets weak and sometimes it gets stronger and we all experience it so it DOES INDEED increase and decrease.


They are both right, just two different ways of looking at things and we agree with both of them.

It is absurd to suggest that Imam Bukhari (RA) went out of his way in his collection because he had an Agenda against Hanafees!

[ENIGMA]

It is absurd to suggest that Imam Bukhari (RA) went out of his way in his collection because he had an Agenda against Hanafees!

exactly my point.

[abulayl]

Are you trying to say, if there were/are Sahih ahadith on not doing raf al yadain, the Imam has intentionally left them out so to give support to the Shafi'i school?

As long as i know , bukhari sharif isn´t perfect source of shafii school. there may hadith present which isn´t evidence of shafii school!

[ENIGMA]

As long as i know , bukhari sharif isn´t perfect source of shafii school. there may hadith present which isn´t evidence of shafii school!

I don't think any of the major Hadith books have set out to favour one particular madhab, even though the Writer/compiler of the Hadith kitaabs may have followed one particular madhab.