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    Default Query regarding hadith about india - Hind

    I would like to know what are the virtues of qitaal against hind. Also the hadeeth mentioned in nisai is that for the first people that conquer it or is it for everyone. Also is there weakness in this narration as if I remember correctly Imam Dahabi mentioned something regarding this.

    Also apart from this narration which other narrations are there. I hear that there is a narration in kanzul ummal??

    Inshallah it would be great if some ulema and some knowledeable people answered this in detail.


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    Default Re: Query regarding hadeeth about india

    Asslamo Allaikum,

    Hadeeth Number One:

    http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/D...Doc=3&Rec=4781


    أخبرني ‏ ‏محمد بن عبد الله بن عبد الرحيم ‏ ‏قال حدثنا ‏ ‏أسد بن موسى ‏ ‏قال حدثنا ‏ ‏بقية ‏ ‏قال حدثني ‏ ‏أبو بكر الزبيدي ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏أخيه ‏ ‏محمد بن الوليد ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏لقمان بن عامر ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏عبد الأعلى بن عدي البهراني ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏ثوبان مولى رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏قال ‏
    ‏قال رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏عصابتان ‏ ‏من أمتي ‏ ‏أحرزهما ‏ ‏الله من النار ‏ ‏عصابة ‏ ‏تغزو ‏ ‏الهند ‏ ‏وعصابة ‏ ‏تكون مع ‏ ‏عيسى ابن مريم ‏ ‏عليهما السلام ‏

    Thawban (RA) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said, "Two groups of my Ummah Allah has protected from the Hellfire: a group that will conquer India and a group that will be with 'Eessa son of Maryam (AS)" (Nasai & also mentioned in Ahmed & Tabarani.).

    Commentary by Shayhul-Hadeeth Maulana Muhammad Sarfarz Khan Safdar:

    This Hadeeth illustrates that a time will come when Ahlul-Islam will get sick and tired of Indian oppression and will do Jihad with India and apparently this has begun. From the creation of Pakistan (within the huge landscape of India) until now, the Hindu oppressors have indeed inflicted significant hardship on the Muslims, countless Muslims have been murdered (Shaheed) and their properties have been destroyed. Moreover, the oppression in Kashmir is not hidden from any sensible individual. Although some Muslim organisations are “voluntarily” engaged in Jihad but over 53+ Muslim states are shamelessly silent (on the issue of Kashmir) and afraid to upset their Masters (America and its confederates) …But a time will come when Muslims (those with honour and dignity) will take on India and be successful.

    Hadeeth Number Two:

    Translation: Na'im b. Hammad in al-Fitan reports that Abu Hurayrah, radhiAllaahu 'anhu, said that the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam, mentioned India and said, "A group of you will conquer India, Allah will open for them [India] until they come with its kings chained - Allah having forgiven their sins - when they return back [from India], they will find Ibn Maryam in Syria." (Kanzul-Ummal)


    Commentary by Shayhul-Hadeeth Maulana Muhammad Sarfarz Khan Safdar:

    Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) mentioned India and described that “Your army will engage in Jihad against India and Allah (SWT) will grant it victory. Alhumdolillah Allah (SWT) granted victory to the Mujahideen and Pakistan Army in Kargil (and its surroundings) and Nawaz Shareef (the American stooge) turned it into defeat. A time will come when the Army of Muslims will bring the rulers of India in handcuffs, chained (to the neck) and Allah (SWT) will forgive the sins of the entire Army. When this Army will return victorious they will witness Isa Ibn Maryam (RA) in Syria

    Hadeeth Number Three:

    http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/D...Doc=3&Rec=4780


    حدثني ‏ ‏محمد بن إسمعيل بن إبراهيم ‏ ‏قال حدثنا ‏ ‏يزيد ‏ ‏قال أنبأنا ‏ ‏هشيم ‏ ‏قال حدثنا ‏ ‏سيار أبو الحكم ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏جبر بن عبيدة ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏أبي هريرة ‏ ‏قال ‏
    ‏وعدنا رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏غزوة ‏ ‏الهند ‏ ‏فإن أدركتها أنفق فيها نفسي ومالي وإن قتلت كنت أفضل الشهداء وإن رجعت فأنا ‏ ‏أبو هريرة ‏ ‏المحرر ‏

    Abu Hurayrah (RA) said, "The Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) promised us the conquest of India. If I was to come across that I will spend my soul and wealth. If I am killed then I am among the best of martyrs. And if I return then I am Abu Hurayrah (RA) the freed." (Nasai & also mentioned in Ahmed & Hakim.).
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    Refer to Tauzih al-Maram fi Nuzul al-Masih by 'Allamah Sarfaraz Khan Safdar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by khanbaba View Post


    Refer to Tauzeeh al-Maram fi Nuzool al-Masih by Allamah Sarfraz Khan Safdar.

    W-Salam,

    Brilliant!!!

    Translation of Hazrat's commentary added to the Ahadeeth above.

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    Default Re: Query regarding hadeeth about india

    But hasn't HIND (which includes India and modern-day Pakistan) ALREADY been conquered by Muslim forces several times over?

    Who is to say that at least some of the prophecies have not already been fulfilled?


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    Default Re: Query regarding hadeeth about india

    Quote Originally Posted by London786 View Post
    I would like to know what are the virtues of qitaal against hind. Also the hadeeth mentioned in nisai is that for the first people that conquer it or is it for everyone. Also is there weakness in this narration as if I remember correctly Imam Dahabi mentioned something regarding this.

    Also apart from this narration which other narrations are there. I hear that there is a narration in kanzul ummal??

    Inshallah it would be great if some ulema and some knowledeable people answered this in detail.
    Assalam Alaikum.

    Brother, have you read "Ghazwa-e-Hind" by Professor Asmat-ullah? I would mail you if you haven't. It is perhaps the most comprehensive book on ghazwat-e-hind.


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    Default Re: Query regarding hadeeth about india

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunni_Student786 View Post
    But hasn't HIND (which includes India and modern-day Pakistan) ALREADY been conquered by Muslim forces several times over?

    Who is to say that at least some of the prophecies have not already been fulfilled?


    Shaykh Sarfaraz has brought forward a hadith from Kanz al-Amal 7;267 which mentions that once this army will conquer Hind and return with leaders of Hind chained, they will find out that Hadhrat ibn Maryam (may the peace of Allah be upon him) is in Shaam.

    So from this we know that this group will then go and fight along with Hadhrat Isa. So Hind will be conquered right before the coming of Hadhrat Isa.
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    Question Re: Query regarding hadeeth about india

    Asslamo Allaikum,

    Question for Ulama:

    Ghazwa is a technical term in Islam for a war in which Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) himself participated.

    Why is this war (in India) called Ghazwa by Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam)?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Muadh_Khan View Post
    Asslamo Allaikum,

    Question for Ulama:

    Ghazwa is a technical term in Islam for a war in which Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) himself participated.

    Why is this war (in India) called Ghazwa by Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam)?
    Walikum-us-salam.

    There are two types of ghazwat.

    Ghazwat-e-Waqiya: These include those wars which were fought during the times of Rasoolulah (SAWW). These can be further divided into "ghazwa" and "surriyya".

    Ghazwat-e-Mo'uudah: These include the future wars which have been predicted in the hadeeths of Rasoolulah (SAWW).

    Please have a look at the attached image, where I have gathered the required information.
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