Musnad Ahmad Online?

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Is it possible to search Musnad of imam Ahmad online?

[Colonel_Hardstone]

Is it possible to search Musnad of imam Ahmad online?

W-Salam,

In Arabic yes Mufti Hussain wrote a thread on it.

I might be wrong but I don't think that Musnad Ahmed exists in English

You can also search here:

http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Hier.asp?Doc=6&n=0

[hope_n_fear]

Br. Muadh.
I was in particular searching for the hadeeth located in the Musnad, that goes something like this, more or less the meaning,
that Allaah ta'ala says, that when He becomes pleased with someone, He grants His blessings/barakah, and there is no limit to His barakah. Similarly, if He is disobeyed, He becomes angry, and His curse descends, the effect of which extends 7 generations.
Anyone knows the full hadeeth with chain of narration?

[Husain]

You probably heard it from Ml. Tariq Jamil Saheb.

It isn't in the Musnad of imam Ahmed, it is in his "Kitab az-Zuhd:

Here it is:
حدثنا عبد الله حدثنا ابي حدثنا عبد الرزاق حدثنا بكار قال سمعت وهبا يقول إن الرب تبارك وتعالى قال في بعض ما يقول لبنى اسرائيل اني اذا اطعت رضيت واذا رضيت باركت وليس لبركتي نهاية واني اذا عصيت غضبت واذا غضبت لعنت ولعنتي تبلغ السابع من الولد

It isn't a hadith of Nabi , rather it is an Isra'ili narration of Wahb ibn Munabbih, who mentions that this was an address to Bani Isra'il, from Allah Ta'ala.

[hope_n_fear]

You probably heard it from Ml. Tariq Jamil Saheb.

It isn't in the Musnad of imam Ahmed, it is in his "Kitab az-Zuhd:

Mufti sahab.

I actually read about it in Ml. Ashraf Ali Thanvi (rah)'s Jazaul A'maal [first section].

What is the status of this narration in terms of authenticity and can I as a laymen relate it to others in ijtima'i/infiradi da'wah?

[abulayl]

the hadith of the Prophet , "narrate from the hadith of Bani Isra'il and there is no harm in doing it. But do not believe it to be true nor reject it as a lie "


Ibn Taymiyya said in his book "al-qaida al-jaleela fit- tawwasuli wal-waseela", with commentary of Dr. Rabi'a bin Hadi 'Umayr al-Mudkhali,

"And just like it is not permissible to forbid something without a shari'ah evidence, (dalîl shar'&#238 but if it something is known to be forbidden and a hadith has been narrated in warning the one who commits such an action, and it is not known that it is a lie, it is permissible to narrate it. And it is permissible to narrate it in the manner of encouraging and discouraging (at- tarhîb wat-targhîb) what is not known that it is a lie. but in what is known that Allah has encouraged or discouraged with another evidence besides this [weak] hadith whose authenticity is unknown (majhûl hâluh)."

"This is like the [situation] of the Isra'iliyyât [stories related by the Jews]. It is permissible to be narrated as long as we know that it is not a lie, for encouraging or discouraging in what we know that Allah has ordered in our law (shar') or forbade in our law (shar')."

"But Ahmad ibn Hanbal and other scholars permitted the narration [of hadith] regarding the virtues of good what is not established [as authentic] as long as it is not known that it is a lie." (laakinna Ahmad ibn Hanbal wa ghayruh min al-'ulama jawwazu an yurwa fee fada'il al-'aamal maa lam yu'lam annahu thaabit idha lam yu'lam annahu kadhib.)

Ibn Taymiyya(rh) said:
"As for what has been authenticated as lawful to us, by way of the Isa'iliyyât that has not been proven and no scholar believes in that. And Ahmad ibn Hanbal and the like of the Imams never depend on hadith like this in shari'ah.

[Husain]

What is the status of this narration in terms of authenticity and can I as a laymen relate it to others in ijtima'i/infiradi da'wah?

While the narration could be quoted, I personally find it difficult to comprehend the disobedience of someone causing 7 generations of his family being cursed.
I read through many hadith books in my students days and recall coming across this narration in the Kitab az-Zuhd and not finding my mind at peace with it from them.

And Allah Ta'ala knows best

[hope_n_fear]

Mufti sahab.