Mawlid

[faqir]

Asalamu alaykum bro,

With all due respect I would question your intention behind flooding the forum with numerous separate threads about this issue.

At least have the decency to accept that there is a difference of opinion on this issue with Awliya like Imam Ibn Hajar and Imam al-Suyuti ruling on the permissibility of Mawlid.

With respect to what you have posted above I suggest you read what was posted elsewhere:

I agree with Sidi Faraz Rabbani that "Sheikh Gibril was unduly harsh to a scholar of such high calibre but the points made were solid."

"The observance of the 12th of this month as the birthday of the Holy Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, is not only an innovation having no basis in the Islamic teachings, but the accuracy of this date as the real birthday of the Holy Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, is also very much doubted."

Comment: Here the author contradicts what he had said in the first paragraph: "Rabi'ul-Awwal is the most significant month in the Islamic history, because humanity has been blessed in this month by the birth of the Holy Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam." Does this not constitute "a basis in the Islamic teachings" since this Mufti deems himself one such basis and these are his words? As for the specific date of the 12th, it is enough to quote Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali on the matter in his book Lata'if al-Ma`arif (p. 185): "The VAST MAJORITY hold that he [the Prophet, Allah bless and greet him] was born on the Second Day of the Week (al-Ithnayn = "Monday") 12 Rabi` al-Awwal... in the Year of the Elephant."

So it is a good date for such a celebration because there is greater readiness for it in the hearts and minds of the people at that time; and, at the same time:

"we do NOT claim that it is Sunna to do celebrate the Mawlid on a specific night and whoever claims this has committed innovation in the Religion, because we should remember him at all times... although the reason to do so becomes stronger in the month of his birth due to the turning of people to that event and their gatherings and their feelings [at that time]."

Al-Sayyid Muhammad al-Maliki, Mafahim (10th ed. p. 317).

I really suggest you read the Sh. GF Haddad article referred to above before posting any more of your cut and pastes.

Wasalam.

[Yaseen]

Asalamu'alykum

Wallahi I hve never seen such generalisation before. Who says the celebration of the Prophet's Mawlid must be on the 12th of Rabiul Awwal, in order for people to feel the light of Islam and the light of the Shariah in their hearts. I have never heard anyone whoi celebrates the Mawlid say this. this is I am afraid to say a blatant lie.

I take it the second fatwa is from a "salafi"- a hallmark being that they label Muslims Mushrikeen. They have labelled the likes of Imam Imam Ibn Hajar Asqalani, Imam Mulla Ali Qari and Imam Al-Hafiz Al-Qastalani as mushrikeen as they all spoke positively of Milad-ul-Nabi.

I am sure there is a hadith narrated by Hafidh Ibn-Kathir in which the Prophet states that he fears the day when people who recite the Qur'an and accuse other Muslims of shirk. A sahabi asked him who is the true mushrik to which the Prophet salalhu'alyhi wasalam replied the one accusing the ummah of shirk is the real Mushrik.

Wasalaam

[Yaseen]

Salaam

Is this the Mufti Saiful Islam from the madrassa in Bradford. His students have been heard to say similar things that contradict the verdict of the Ahl-ul-Sunnah wal Jama'ah. I would advise you to tell him label a fatwa against Khalil As-Saharanpuri because he also supported Milad so long as it was free from reprehensible acts. In fact upon reading Al-Muhannid he will see that the aqeedah narrated by Khalil As-Saharanpuri, which is meant to represent the true belief of the Deobandis is quite similar to those who celebrate the Milad and are labelled all sorts of things by Mufti sahibs students.

May Allah guide us all.

Wasalaam

[muslim786]

No one says Milad has to be on the 12th of rabi al awwal, and proof of this is the numerous gathering of Milad held all the time by the people who the majisi are accusing of this. This weekend for example there are many milad gatherings, and the 12th is not this weekend. Also there a events in May, and that is well after the 12th of rabi al awwal.

[Omar HH]

No one says Milad has to be on the 12th of rabi al awwal, and proof of this is the numerous gathering of Milad held all the time by the people who the majisi are accusing of this. This weekend for example there are many milad gatherings, and the 12th is not this weekend. Also there a events in May, and that is well after the 12th of rabi al awwal.

People do Mawlid all the time. In my opinion it's now just become sort of a synonym for "a gathering to increase our love for the Prophet and Allah (SWT)"

[Omar HH]

The Prophet has a hadith in which he says he fasted because it was his birthday.

[Omar HH]

The Maliki madhab has the same rule that when people start thinking that a new act is Wajib or a Sunnah of our Prophet or part of our Din, it then becomes makruh... such as Qur'an Khitmas and Mawlids if this happens to them.

[muslim786]

People do Mawlid all the time. In my opinion it's now just become sort of a synonym for "a gathering to increase our love for the Prophet and Allah (SWT)"

Thats what it is after all.

[Mossy]

Differences of opinion are a mercy. Yay.

[Omar HH]

Thats what it is after all.

Yeah it's not really celebrating his birth, at least in my opinion.

Think of it like this - it's celebrating our love for him. He loves us so much and we love him so much (insha Allah, may Allah increase us manifold in our love for him) that we can't bear to not express it at least a couple of times a year - so we gather to send blessings upon him and increase in our love for him.

I mean come on guys, think about how much he loved us. Every Prophet is given a du'a - and he used his to intercede for us. Think about how much love for us he has. I mean come on, what is intercession when you think about it? It's saving someone from the worst punishment a human being can bear and instead giving him immiediate enterance into everlasting bliss!

I have read he will even lessen the punishment of those in the fire, and raise the ranks of some in Jannah!

For those who (may Allah grant it for us) recieve the intercession of the Prophet they will truly realize that he is indeed a Mercy for all Mankind.

May Allahumma Salee 'ala Sayyidina Muhammadan 'adada kamal illahi.

Jazakallahu Khayrun