Fear Allah: what does it really mean?

[UntoldTruth]

I've shown you my evidences. What are yours, or these just your opinions?

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I didn't actually come here to debate those particular issues.

But if you are interested in the evidences, then you should read, Tafsir Jalalayn, and Tafsir Baghawi for the liguistic and narrative proofs for the issue of Iblis being an angel or a jinn and the issue dealing with was it Ishaq or Ishmael. And what you will find is that the companions of the Messenger of Allah differed on these issues.

In regards to the issue is the word Allah derived or not. I don't remember where the difference of opinion is discussed by the scholars, but when I find out I will let you know.



UntoldTruth

[not known]

I thought about this for a couple of day. I don't think we are commanded to follow the scholars unconditionally. Scholars make mistakes.
How can we be forced to follow the mistakes of a scholar, when he makes a mistake? We have a right to disagree with a scholar when they are in error.



UntoldTruth

yes as scholars make mistake, there is more chance for u to make mistakes than scholars

surely we doesnt follow the mistakes, but the mistake should be proved by other great scholars and even here u are following a scholar who has the correct view. you just cant think a scholar has made a mistake and disagree with him on your own, because there is more chance for u to be in error

hope u understood

[maneatinglizard]

Then, how can you be confident in Islam at all?

The scholars preserved the Qur'an as well, and all the reports regarding the authenticity of the Qur'an are found nowhere but in the Hadith.

And don't claim that you only follow the Ahadith that you deem correct, because no one will follow that false religion except for its inventor, i.e. you. You currently have no access to the raw teachings of the Prophet , except through the scholars of Hadith. You arbitrarily designating Aadith as true and not according to your whims will be of no avail to you or anyone else.

You previously said that you'd rather suffer in hellfire for your own mistakes, rather than for the mistakes of scholars. I say that the best alternative is to protect yourself from the punishment of Allah by seeking and following the true scholars, who have carried on and preserved the message of the Seal of the Prophets, Muhammad , and only judge based upon his way, and not the ways of East or West.

And, as to your last reply, I asked for your evidences, not the names of books.

I provided evidences directly from the Qur'an, I expect that you at least provide me with some substance.

[UntoldTruth]

:you just cant think a scholar has made a mistake and disagree with him on your own, because there is more chance for u to be in error

hope u understood

And I have every right to disagree with a scholar, Allah has given us that right.

Allah said, "They have taken their rabbis and their monks as lords beside Allah and [they take as a lord] The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, yet they were not commanded but to worship One God: None has the right to be worshipped but He - Praise and Glory to Him: [Far is He] from having the partners they associate [withHim]" (Qur'an 9:31)

We are not to take our scholars as lords. Which means we are not to follow the mistakes of the scholars. In this verse Allah has given us the right to disagree with the mistakes of a scholar. No where does it say I have to find another scholar to verfy the mistake of scholar in order not to follow them.

In fact the Messenger of Allah said, "Ask your heart for a judgment even if the jurist give you a verdict." (Ahmad - Hasan)

The Quranic Ayat above is enough to establish that we do not follow the mistakes of a scholar.



UntoldTruth

[Dhul-Qarnayn]

And I have every right to disagree with a scholar, Allah has given us that right.

Allah said, "They have taken their rabbis and their monks as lords beside Allah and [they take as a lord] The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, yet they were not commanded but to worship One God: None has the right to be worshipped but He - Praise and Glory to Him: [Far is He] from having the partners they associate [withHim]" (Qur'an 9:31)

We are not to take our scholars as lords. Which means we are not to follow the mistakes of the scholars. In this verse Allah has given us the right to disagree with the mistakes of a scholar. No where does it say I have to find another scholar to verfy the mistake of scholar in order not to follow them.

In fact the Messenger of Allah said, "Ask your heart for a judgment even if the jurist give you a verdict." (Ahmad - Hasan)

The Quranic Ayat above is enough to establish that we do not follow the mistakes of a scholar.



UntoldTruth

The issue is, who is fit to judge the mistakes of scholars? Not you or I, but other scholars.

You do get control and choice over which scholars you follow, but the nitty gritty of scholarship is left to them unless you too want to get on the path to becoming one yourself.

[not known]

And I have every right to disagree with a scholar, Allah has given us that right.

Allah said, "They have taken their rabbis and their monks as lords beside Allah and [they take as a lord] The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, yet they were not commanded but to worship One God: None has the right to be worshipped but He - Praise and Glory to Him: [Far is He] from having the partners they associate [withHim]" (Qur'an 9:31)

We are not to take our scholars as lords. Which means we are not to follow the mistakes of the scholars. In this verse Allah has given us the right to disagree with the mistakes of a scholar. No where does it say I have to find another scholar to verfy the mistake of scholar in order not to follow them.

In fact the Messenger of Allah said, "Ask your heart for a judgment even if the jurist give you a verdict." (Ahmad - Hasan)

The Quranic Ayat above is enough to establish that we do not follow the mistakes of a scholar.



UntoldTruth

yes we have every right not to follow their mistakes, but how will u know that a scholar has done a mistake

hmmm do u know atleast the full name of sahih bukhari, muslim, tirmidi etc... ? (not after searching in google )

[hippopatamus]

I love Allah! (Dios Jesus Christo (SWT))! Save me from drug from hell! Please teach me to be Musulmán, Querido Dios mio! Bendiciones sobre el Profeta Mohamed (PBUH).

Amor por Allah!

[amr123]

I love Allah! (Dios Jesus Christo (SWT))! Save me from drug from hell! Please teach me to be Musulmán, Querido Dios mio! Bendiciones sobre el Profeta Mohamed (PBUH).

Amor por Allah!

Good to hear that brother. To convert to a Muslim you have to do the following:

To become a Muslim, one has to pronounce 'Shahadah' in Arabic. Here is the ShahadaH:

Ash Hadu Anlaa ilaaha illallah wa ash Hadu Anna Muhammadu rasoolullah

Meaning: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is his Messenger.

To pronounce it correctly I have added a video, It would be easier for you bro. Do not wait, become a Muslim
May Allah guide you in the right path. Ameen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yASGCOPFNiM