Shaykh Gibril Haddad refutes Mufti Taqi Usmani on Mawlid

[hope1]

Assalamu alaikum,

I stumbled upon this article on the LivingIslam website by Shaykh Gibril Haddad where he systematically refutes Mufti Taqi Usmani's fatwa on the mawlid. In conclusion he says: "the fatwa is mostly wrong and should be ignored." This shows several things: (1) that there is a difference between the traditionalists and the Deobandis on this issue as opposed to what some ulema would have us think. For example Shaykh Faraz, SunniPath and Mufti Muhammad bin Adam would make us think that there is not much difference between the two parties and they quote Mufti Taqi to bridge the gap. Whereas Shaykh Gibril is saying that Mufti Taqi's fatwa is wrong and should be ignored. (2) It shows that we can disagree with each other and we can call each other's fatwas wrong and incorrect. If Shaykh Gibril can call someone of the caliber of Mufti Taqi saheb incorrect then I don't see why our great ulema cannot call the fatwas of other scholars (no matter how great they may be/may have been) incorrect.

By the way the article is here: http://www.livingislam.org/n/tufm_e.html

[abdulwahhab]

Assalamu alaikum,

I stumbled upon this article on the LivingIslam website by Shaykh Gibril Haddad where he systematically refutes Mufti Taqi Usmani's fatwa on the mawlid. In conclusion he says: "the fatwa is mostly wrong and should be ignored." This shows several things: (1) that there is a difference between the traditionalists and the Deobandis on this issue as opposed to what some ulema would have us think. For example Shaykh Faraz, SunniPath and Mufti Muhammad bin Adam would make us think that there is not much difference between the two parties and they quote Mufti Taqi to bridge the gap. Whereas Shaykh Gibril is saying that Mufti Taqi's fatwa is wrong and should be ignored. (2) It shows that we can disagree with each other and we can call each other's fatwas wrong and incorrect. If Shaykh Gibril can call someone of the caliber of Mufti Taqi saheb incorrect then I don't see why our great ulema cannot call the fatwas of other scholars (no matter how great they may be/may have been) incorrect.

By the way the article is here: http://www.livingislam.org/n/tufm_e.html

Sh. GF Haddad isn't really seen with the utmost respect on this forum, even by our resident mufti saheb because, like the Barelvis, he links Deoband with Wahhabis.

The shaykh is a mureed of Sh. Nazim Haqqani, who is another controversial figure and has been popularized because of his doubly-controversial mureed, Sh. Kabbani. Sh. GF Haddad by no means holds a monopoly on representing Sunni Islam outside of the subcontinent.

[hope1]

Sh. GF Haddad isn't really seen with the utmost respect on this forum, even by our resident mufti saheb because, like the Barelvis, he links Deoband with Wahhabis.

Assalamu alaikum,
I knew he was of the SunniPath type because his answers are there but now I am really surprised that he compared Mufti Taqi to Wahhabis in the article. That is a little extreme.

[abdulwahhab]

Assalamu alaikum,
I knew he was of the SunniPath type because his answers are there but now I am really surprised that he compared Mufti Taqi to Wahhabis in the article. That is a little extreme.

Not only in that article, but in others, he has called Deoband a Wahhabi-inspired institution.

He is not really a SunniPath type either because SunniPath tends to represent a broader scope than what Sh. GF Haddad or Mufti Taqi Uthmani (db) say. His shaykh Haqqani, for example, allows music and there is ample evidence of gender mixing and interaction with women at his juloos but SunniPath does not endorse these actions.

[abulayl]

anyway khair inshallah, GF haddad has his reason not to agree with mufti taqi. we people in forum cant help him.

[hope1]

Not only in that article, but in others, he has called Deoband a Wahhabi-inspired institution.

He is not really a SunniPath type either because SunniPath tends to represent a broader scope than what Sh. GF Haddad or Mufti Taqi Uthmani (db) say. His shaykh Haqqani, for example, allows music and there is ample evidence of gender mixing and interaction with women at his juloos but SunniPath does not endorse these actions.

Assalamu alaikum,

That is why I am surprised because such a response to Mufti Taqi saheb is not typical of SunniPath's broad approach.

[Salim123]

Not only in that article, but in others, he has called Deoband a Wahhabi-inspired institution.

He is not really a SunniPath type either because SunniPath tends to represent a broader scope than what Sh. GF Haddad or Mufti Taqi Uthmani (db) say. His shaykh Haqqani, for example, allows music and there is ample evidence of gender mixing and interaction with women at his juloos but SunniPath does not endorse these actions.

Mashallah Sheikh GF Haddad is knowledgabe, but he seems to have a very harsh tone and is very critical of other Scholars Opinions.

I think he has caused issues with Sheikh Ninowy, Sheikh Suhaib Webb, Sheikh Qaradwi.

This is not the way forward, using such harshness. There is no Tawazoo, or humbleness, or respect for Elders in the rebuttals by Sheikh Haddad.


He should remember that difference of Opinion can and do take place.

and deobandi stance is similar to that of Sheikh Bin Bayyah

http://binbayyah.wordpress.com/2009/...%99s-birthday/

So in my opinion there is no need to prolong discussion of it, nor to fuel further debate about it. In conclusion: whoever celebrates the Mawlid by relating events from the life of the Prophet, peace be upon him, or by recounting his splendid virtues; doing so without mixing this with any act that the Sacred Law deems repugnant; nor with the intention of it being recommended or obligatory – so if it is celebrated with the conditions I have mentioned; without bringing in to it anything that contravenes the Sacred Law; but out of love for the Prophet, peace be upon him – then, Allah willing, there is no problem with it, and he will be rewarded. This was mentioned by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah who said that one will be rewarded for their intention. He states this in Iqti∂å’ al-Íirå† al-Mustaq•m.2 As for those who abstain from the act, also desiring to conform to the prophetic guidance and fearful of falling into bid‘ah, they too shall be rewarded, Allah willing. The issue is not really that big; nor is it necessary to pay it more attention than it actually deserves


Mashallah what a lovely way to put things, so humbly, so lovingly with such immense understanding for both sides. And respect for our Elders\Scholars who are doing such great and vital duty for the Ummah

Mashallah those that forbid, also do it out of the Love of Allah and His Messanger (Sallallahu Alaihi Wassallam)



Subhanallah

Allah Knows Best

[Dhul-Qarnayn]

Not only in that article, but in others, he has called Deoband a Wahhabi-inspired institution.

He is not really a SunniPath type either because SunniPath tends to represent a broader scope than what Sh. GF Haddad or Mufti Taqi Uthmani (db) say. His shaykh Haqqani, for example, allows music and there is ample evidence of gender mixing and interaction with women at his juloos but SunniPath does not endorse these actions.

LOL @ such a statement.

Would you happen to have links to these?

[jinnzaman]

As-salamu alaikum

That link does not "systematically refute" Mufti Taqi Usmani. Its more of a temper tantrum than a fatwa whereas Mufti Taqi Usmani's provides systematic discussion of principles and evidences.

wassalam

[umar_italy]

LOL @ such a statement.

Would you happen to have links to these?

Isma`il al-Dihlawi (Shah Muhammad, d. 1246), one of the leaders of the Wahhabi-influenced Deobandi school in the Indo-Pakistani Subcontinent in one of his booklets entitled (...)

(...)

Gangowhi (Rashid Ahmad) a leader of the Wahhabi-influenced Deobandi school of India and Pakistan in his (...)

(...)

Thanwi (Ashraf `Ali), a leader of the Wahhabi-influenced Deobandi school in the Indian Subcontinent, in his book (...)

(...)

Zahir (Ihsan Ilahi), a leader of the Wahhabi-influenced Deobandi school and declared enemy of the Barelwi school of Ahl al-Sunna in Lahore, India, in his book (...)

(...)

GF Haddad ©
[2000-09-18]

[http://www.livingislam.org/fiqhi/fiqha_e30.html]


In another of his articles, he keep considering Ihsan Ilahi Zahir a Deobandi, but the name "Gangowhi" becomes: "Janijawhi (Rashid Ahmad)", and so we have:

Janijawhi (Rashid Ahmad) a leader of the Wahhabi- influenced Deobandi school of India and Pakistan in his Fatawa rashidiyya (...)

[http://www.livingislam.org/nurn_e.html]

The rest of the article is the same.


Some months later (2000-11-16) we have something quite different in his Q&A:

What is Deobandi and Wahabi?

Deobandi = Pertaining to the school of Deoband, India, which is principally Hanafi. Wahhabi = Pertaining to the school of Muhammad ibn `Abd al-Wahhab presently followed by the Saudis.

[http://www.livingislam.org/fiqhi/fiqha_e93.html#6]


Two years later, he goes further:

No Difference between Barelwis and Deobandis

What exactly is the difference between the school of thought that follows Ala Hadrath Ahmed Rida Khan RA and those that follow the school of thought of Rashid Ahmed Gangohi against whom i understand Ala Hadrath had said that there is inherent kufr in the nature of thought expressed but did not issue a fatwa of Kufr, as Maulana Rashid Gangohi had passed on. (may Allah Ta'laa forgive me if i have made a mistake ) there is a lot of ikhtiflaaf in the Indian subcontinent on this issue and I do understand that it is extremely volatile - but, I would request you to kindly spare sometime and answer me?

[Faraz Rabbani notes: I agree wholeheartedly with the content of Shaykh Gibril’s comments.]

Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim:

There is no difference in the generalities of `Aqida and Fiqh between Barelwis and Deobandis. They are both Sunni Hanafis, Sufis, Ash`aris or Maturidis. One stands in need of the best each school has to offer, as indeed hold many of the living prestigious teachers known to both sides.

Among the best commentaries on Sahih Muslim and the Sunan of al-Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud are works by the Deobandis. The Lives of the Sahaba by al-Kandihlawi is a masterpiece. I`la'al-Sunan and Aathaar al-Sunan are very valuable. As for Imam Ahmad Rida Khan and his works, whoever does not recognize their worth as one of the treasures of this Umma is a blasted nincompoop who should wear a dunce cap until he learns.

Both sides are strict Hanafis and mainstream Sufis. We do not endorse the mistakes that anyone might have made, such as uttering words rightly perceived to lack adab in matters of `Aqida or contesting the legality of celebrating Mawlid.

Nor do we endorse Takfir. Demonization of the other, saying they are munafiq is unacceptable. We leave extremism to Najd and its minions. Come together. Sayyid Muhammad `Alawi al-Maliki advised you to do so, Sayyid Yusuf al-Rifa`i advised you, Shaykh `Abd al-Hadi Kharsa advised you, Sayyid Ya`qubi, Dr. al-Nass, others... Do you think you stand for the honor of Allah and His Prophet more than such as these? Think again.

When the situation is such that there is mutual avoidance at mosques, gatherings, etc. then it becomes wajib for every true and sincere Deobandi should seek out his counterparts among Barelwis and for every true and sincere Barelwi to seek out his counterparts among Deobandis, pray together, learn from one another, give salam, and increase love. Disunity is sin. Or are you afraid you will lose reputation or funding? Shame.

Here is the resting-place of Shaykh `Abd al-Qadir Gilani and Imam Abu Hanifa bracing for another Mongoloid onslaught. Will you Sunnis still be debating and anathematizing one another because of who said what as the Hour rises? Stressing ikhtilaf and schism is from Shaytan. If this is what the general public chooses to follow, it is their loss even as they shout ALLAHU AKBAR and YA RASULALLAH from God's dawn to the wee hours. Salam.

Hajj Gibril
Shawwal 1423/December 2002
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GF Haddad

[http://www.livingislam.org/fiqhi/sp1-gfh_e.html#10]