The Situation in Kashmir

[Intrepid]

Police suspended in Kashmir case

The alleged rapes and murders have generated much anger
The suspension of four police officers has been ordered in Indian-administered Kashmir in connection with the alleged rape and murder of two women there.

The move follows recommendations made in an interim report from a judicial commission to prosecute certain officials for tampering with evidence.

The government has also ordered the suspension of an official at the forensic science laboratory.

The bodies of the women were found on 30 May, prompting weeks of protests.

After the discovery of the bodies in a canal in the town of Shopian, the government initially maintained that the two women had died in an accident and that they had not been raped or killed.

However, the police later registered a case of both rape and murder.

The incident seriously challenged the credibility and ability of the chief minister, Omar Abdullah, who subsequently ordered a judicial inquiry into the case.

The report, by retired judge Justice Muzaffar Jan, was submitted on Sunday and made several key recommendations.

These included a recommendation to prosecute four police officers for "destroying evidence" pertaining to the case.

The deaths of the women have triggered widespread demonstrations in the Kashmir valley, during which at least two youths have been killed and hundreds wounded.

A series of strikes over the incident brought parts of the valley to a virtual standstill.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8112164.stm

Police fire on Kashmir protesters

New protests began after police broke up earlier demonstrations

Police in Indian-administered Kashmir have fired on thousands of protesters demonstrating against the alleged rape and murder of two young women.

Tear gas and live rounds were used to break up the march in Shopian town.

Protesters accuse Indian paramilitary forces of raping and killing the women. On Sunday police said forensic tests showed the women had been raped.

Protests over the deaths have raged in the Muslim-majority Kashmir valley since the bodies were found on 30 May.

One protester died during clashes last week with police, after being hit on the head by a tear gas shell.

More than 140 others have so far been wounded, about 40 of them during clashes on Monday.

At least four people were taken to hospital with bullet wounds after the clashes in Shopian on Monday, the BBC's Altaf Hussain in Srinagar says.

'Case of rape'

Our correspondent says police have imposed curfew-like restrictions in the city and some other towns in the valley to prevent marchers reaching Shopian.

Shops are closed and schools, colleges and many government offices are shut across the valley.

The strike has been called by senior separatist leader, Syed Ali Shah Geelani.

Mr Geelani, who had called on people to march to Shopian on Monday, was arrested on Saturday night.

The bodies of the two young women were found in a canal in the town of Shopian on 30 May. They had gone missing the previous evening.

The cause of their deaths is still being investigated, but police say a post-mortem examination shows they were raped.

"The forensic lab report indicates that an offence has taken place," inspector general of police B Srinivas told the BBC.

"We have registered a case of rape and taken up investigation."

The state government announced an inquiry into the allegations last Monday, insisting that the "initial findings do not suggest either rape or murder".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8088660.stm

Incidents like this sadden me greatly and make me reflect on my own incompetency. However as a Kashmiri I often feel this Jihad is neglected, am I mistaken?

[Abu Shuja'ah]

Certainly not forgotten, when Gaza was bombed in Dec-Jan, Misahry El Afasi released a dua, Afghan, Iraq, Kashir and Gaza were mentioned. Watching that move Slumdog Millionaire raised the issue for a while.

I've read about it, Kashmir = Indian Palestine, just without Aqsa.....

Allahu Alam.

[JerryL]

So some men, police officers, have been alleged to have committed rape-murders.
The justice system has suspended them and is investigating the charges.

If they did it, may they rot in hell.
If they didn't do it, may they be exonerated swiftly and the guilty parties found and punished.

So far, except that there is obviously a bad man/men out there (there always are), it sounds like things are moving properly... or did I skim too much?

[London786]

indian rule in kashmir is full of oppression.... The time is near

[DefendingIslam]

Salam Alaykum,

Commenting on the above, I remember once talking to an Indian Muslim about Kashmir, to which he basically said that Kashmir will stay as part of India, and it is the Indians' right to keep Kashmir through whichever means possible, including force and disregard for the Kashmiri's opinions.

Looking back at this, I think one of the main problem we have when handling such sorts of conflicts is that Muslims pay allegiance to "sovereign nation-states" all of which rule by other than the Divine Shariah and many of which seek to undermine, enslave and ridicule the Muslims either economically, politically, militarily, or a combination of all these three.

I am definitely not singling out Indian Muslims, but this type of naive patriotism is seen amongst French Muslims, British Muslims, Turkish Muslims, Pakistani Muslims, and all Muslims from all nationalities. As long as a Muslim is required by international law to place his country's laws above Islamic Shariah, no good can come either to him or to his larger Muslim community.

I personally do not accept the legitimacy of any of the current nation-states, including my own, and I only have a passport of my country due to extreme necessity. However, I hope the day will come when Muslims can burn their existing passports and become citizens of a true Islamic entity.

[marco100]

Salam Alaykum,

Commenting on the above, I remember once talking to an Indian Muslim about Kashmir, to which he basically said that Kashmir will stay as part of India, and it is the Indians' right to keep Kashmir through whichever means possible, including force and disregard for the Kashmiri's opinions.

Looking back at this, I think one of the main problem we have when handling such sorts of conflicts is that Muslims pay allegiance to "sovereign nation-states" all of which rule by other than the Divine Shariah and many of which seek to undermine, enslave and ridicule the Muslims either economically, politically, militarily, or a combination of all these three.

I am definitely not singling out Indian Muslims, but this type of naive patriotism is seen amongst French Muslims, British Muslims, Turkish Muslims, Pakistani Muslims, and all Muslims from all nationalities. As long as a Muslim is required by international law to place his country's laws above Islamic Shariah, no good can come either to him or to his larger Muslim community.

I personally do not accept the legitimacy of any of the current nation-states, including my own, and I only have a passport of my country due to extreme necessity. However, I hope the day will come when Muslims can burn their existing passports and become citizens of a true Islamic entity.

Allah will destroy anyone who practices sectarianism/nationalism. Such filthy beliefs don't belong in Islam.

[Colonel_Hardstone]

Asslamo Allaikum,

Two things in the past two (2) weeks.

1) First Deobandi condemnation/criticism of Pakistani Taliban in a Deobandi publication and repercussions of their actions discussed (although still veiled)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iwebvBeNZr...C+dareecha.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iwebvBeNZr...yasir+khan.jpg

2) First suicide attack on Pakistani forces in Pakistani Kashmir

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...EXN_aJTDHHqQkQ

[boafe]

Is Kashmir a territorial dispute or religion war with India?

If it is a territorial dispute between two parties then what is the status of all those who are being killed?

If it is a religion war, then why the muslims specially in India are not actively participating.

is it correct to term it as "Jehad-e-Kashmir,

[Intrepid]

Is Kashmir a territorial dispute or religion war with India?

If it is a territorial dispute between two parties then what is the status of all those who are being killed?

If it is a religion war, then why the muslims specially in India are not actively participating.

is it correct to term it as "Jehad-e-Kashmir,

It complex but in brief the origins of this dispute are indeed territorial and your mistaken in your part when you say the Muslims in India are not actively participating. At the time of the partition Pakistan believed that Kashmir being a predominantly Muslim state (probably 70%) should be a part of Pakistan (as according to the "Two nation theory" the predominantly Muslim states were meant to be signed over to Pakistan), whilst the Prince of Kashmir (the ruler, but not a popular one) signed it over to India, as he was a Hindu, after tribesmen invaded and try to claim the region for Pakistan. Eventually the U.N. intervened and a referendum/plebiscite was promised to the Kashmiri people, but as the Indians know that they would never win such a vote have now renegaded from that resolution. You'll here many rhetorical lies and propaganda, especially from the Indians but the truth is in the pudding, why don't you ask the majority of the Kashmiri people as to what they want and ask the Kashmiris as to which side of the border they prefer living on and if any of the Kashmiris living in Pakistan would want to live under the Indian occupied territory? It has the highest civilian to army personnel ratio of any region in the world with 700,000 troops situated there.

Asslamo Allaikum,

2)First suicide attack on Pakistani forces in Pakistani Kashmir

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...EXN_aJTDHHqQkQ

Worrying times, indeed.

[boafe]

It complex but in brief the origins of this dispute are indeed territorial and your mistaken in your part when you say the Muslims in India are not actively participating. At the time of the partition Pakistan believed that Kashmir being a predominantly Muslim state (probably 70%) should be a part of Pakistan (as according to the "Two nation theory" the predominantly Muslim states were meant to be signed over to Pakistan), whilst the Prince of Kashmir (the ruler, but not a popular one) signed it over to India, as he was a Hindu, after tribesmen invaded and try to claim the region for Pakistan. Eventually the U.N. intervened and a referendum/plebiscite was promised to the Kashmiri people, but as the Indians know that they would never win such a vote have now renegaded from that resolution. You'll here many rhetorical lies and propaganda, especially from the Indians but the truth is in the pudding, why don't you ask the majority of the Kashmiri people as to what they want and ask the Kashmiris as to which side of the border they prefer living on and if any of the Kashmiris living in Pakistan would want to live under the Indian occupied territory? It has the highest civilian to army personnel ratio of any region in the world with 700,000 troops situated there.

Should I take that you think that it is only territorial dispute and not a war of or on religion?.