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    Default Please clear my doubts.....-An Ex ghayr muqallid

    Assalam wa alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh....
    I am a 19 year old youth...when i was in my school days i was raised up in the
    tablighi jamat (alhamdulillah) with good tarbiyya....but for the past 2 years i gave up my hanafiyya and became a ghayr muqallid salafi due to the influence of some
    urdu speakers and some less knowledged english speakers....Alhamdulillah after much research when i read books of sh.taqi uthmani[db] my doubts about taqleed
    are fully cleared....i have a few other doubts which i wanted to ask the brothers
    here before i ask them to our local mufti sahib....please do answer the questions....
    Alhamdulillah I m also convinced about tawassul and tabarruk and its correct stance....
    the questions are--
    1] The question of hierarchy of saints. Can it be proven from the quran and sunnah? Does the title of gawth manifest shirk?
    2] The numerology used by Deobandi Scholars. Can it be justified..? And many other taweezat which contain numbers...for example mawlana thanwi[ra]'s translation of the quran in urdu has it as well as amal-e-qurani has it...
    3] another related question....the wazifas which are fixed by the scholars...Is it bidah??
    4] Did hasan al-basri[ra] take knowledge from Sayyidna ali[ra]?? But the hadith science tells that this did not happen....
    5] About Tabarruk..Is seeking tabarruk from the athar of saints permissible??
    6] Can u provide material that proves that the Ashari/Maturidi aqidah is true....

    Please do answer these questions....
    Also do recommend me books on Hanafi fiqh, aqidah etc which are available in India....


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    Default Re: Please clear my doubts.....-An Ex ghayr muqallid

    Mashallah its good you have returned... the answers to your questions can be found in the book of my master the mujtahid in tasawuff maulana ALLAH yar khan rh.

    The book is found here http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39824


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    Quote Originally Posted by seekeroftheway View Post
    Assalam wa alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh....
    I am a 19 year old youth...when i was in my school days i was raised up in the
    tablighi jamat (alhamdulillah) with good tarbiyya....but for the past 2 years i gave up my hanafiyya and became a ghayr muqallid salafi due to the influence of some
    urdu speakers and some less knowledged english speakers....Alhamdulillah after much research when i read books of sh.taqi uthmani[db] my doubts about taqleed
    are fully cleared....i have a few other doubts which i wanted to ask the brothers
    here before i ask them to our local mufti sahib....please do answer the questions....
    Alhamdulillah I m also convinced about tawassul and tabarruk and its correct stance....
    the questions are--
    1] The question of hierarchy of saints. Can it be proven from the quran and sunnah? Does the title of gawth manifest shirk?
    2] The numerology used by Deobandi Scholars. Can it be justified..? And many other taweezat which contain numbers...for example mawlana thanwi[ra]'s translation of the quran in urdu has it as well as amal-e-qurani has it...
    3] another related question....the wazifas which are fixed by the scholars...Is it bidah??
    4] Did hasan al-basri[ra] take knowledge from Sayyidna ali[ra]?? But the hadith science tells that this did not happen....
    5] About Tabarruk..Is seeking tabarruk from the athar of saints permissible??
    6] Can u provide material that proves that the Ashari/Maturidi aqidah is true....

    Please do answer these questions....
    Also do recommend me books on Hanafi fiqh, aqidah etc which are available in India....


    you can be still hanafi without accepting those things, like me


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    Default Re: Please clear my doubts.....-An Ex ghayr muqallid

    brother abdul quddos is right...these matters are not important....learn other things..


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    Default Re: Please clear my doubts.....-An Ex ghayr muqallid

    Bro abdul quddus read the last line of my first post


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    Default Re: Please clear my doubts.....-An Ex ghayr muqallid

    Quote Originally Posted by seekeroftheway View Post
    Bro abdul quddus read the last line of my first post


    bro, since i dont know urdu well, i learn most things from scholars or through english books

    right now i cant find them

    this one is good

    http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/Back2Basics.pdf

    and you can find some books names here, u can also buy some of them infront of markaz (i mean english, dunno about urdu)

    http://www.as-sidq.org/durusulQuran/...ion-ebooks.htm

    other brothers can give u names

    you can be intouch with me, by leaving your email id on my blog
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    Default Re: Please clear my doubts.....-An Ex ghayr muqallid



    If you need a simple one then you should get "Taleemul Islam" by Mufti 'Azam Hadhrat Maulana Kifayatullah Sahib [nawwarallahu marqadahu]. If you need more details, but still for the purpose of learning and not researching, then "Uswai-e-Rasul Akram " by Arifbillah Hadhrat Dr. Abdul Hayy Arifi [rahmatullah alayh] or "Bahishti Zewar" by Hakimul Ummah Hadhrat Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi [rahimullah ta'ala].

    But you're looking for more detailed and scholarly works...


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    Bismillah...

    Assalamualaikum wa Rahmatullah...

    May this reach you in the nest states of Iman and Well-being - 'Afiyah, Ameen...

    Before I begin, I would like to make clear that there are more than one type of Bid'ah:

    Imam ash-Shafi'i classified them into two types: Bid'ah Hasanah and Bid'ah Dhalalah.

    We know that Good Bid'ahs exist, such as the compilation of the Qur'an in book form. We also know that evil Bid'ahs exist. Imam as-Shafi'i classified good Bid'ahs as things which are in line with the principles or Maqasid of the Kitab and Sunnah...

    The title Ghawth would not imply Shirk in its normative usage as long as you beleive that everything happens by the will of Allah. Wallahu Khalaqakum wa ma Ta'malun.

    In the light of my previous discussion on Bid'ah, the Ta'weedhaat would come under the Bid'ah Hasanah as the point of those are to heal which is praiseworthy in and of itself and it is done while believing Allah wills everything.

    This is also the case with the Wadhifahs, or Awrad. Refer to the Hadith of Sayyidinah 'Umar Radhiyallahu 'Anhu:

    One night in Ramadan I went out with “`Umar ibn al-Khattab to the mosque and
    the people were separated in different groups. One man was praying on his own
    and another man with a group behind him following his prayer. `Umar said, “I
    think that it would be better for all these people to join together behind one
    reciter.” So he decided to gather them behind Ubayy ibn Ka’b. Then another
    night I went out with him again and all the people were praying behind one
    reciter. `Umar said, “This is an excellent innovation! But the one they sleep
    through is better than the one they are praying,” meaning prayer in the last part of the night. People used to stand in prayer during the first part of the night.
    Please read the following article of the 'Ulema of the Qarawiyyin: http://(www.************)/articles/innovation-murad.pdf

    As for al-Hasan narrating from Sayyidinah Ali, please see this article of Ibn Hajar al-Haytami explaning the issue: http://(www.************)/articles/Hasan.pdf

    As for Tabarruk, please read the following article by the great scholar and Mufti of the Shafi'is of Madinah al-Munawwarah, Sayyid al-Habib Zayn bin Sumeit al-Husayni. It explains the proofs of Tawassul, Istighatah, Tabarruk, visiting graves etc:

    http://(************)/articles/Issue...-HabibZayn.pdf

    The discussion on Tabarruk starts on Page 9. It outlines many evidences...

    As for the Ash'ari/Maturidi creeds, it has been accepted my the majority of the scholars as the creed of Ahl as-Sunnah wa al-Jama'ah and we stick to the majority.

    The great Imam Taj ad-Din as-Subki ash-Shafi'i has the following to say about the methodology of Ahl as-Sunnah wa al-jama'ah:

    Know, that Ahl al-Sunnah wal Jama`ah are all in agreement upon one Creed regarding what is obligatory, permissible, and impossible (for Allah), even if they differed regarding the methods and fundamentals that arrive to that.

    In general, they [Ahl al-Sunnah wal Jama`ah] are three groups, as ascertained by copious study of all of the sources (istiqra’):

    1. The people of Hadith. Their basic fundamentals are the revealed proofs (adillah alsam’iyyah), by that I mean the Book, the Sunnah, and the Ijma’ (consensus).

    2. The people of rational investigation and thought. They are the Ash`aris and the
    Hanafis 2 [the Maturidis]. The Shaykh of the Ash`aris is: Abul Hasan al-Ash`ari. The Shaykh of the Hanafis is Abu Mansur al-Maturidi. They are in agreement regarding the fundamentals of the sam’iyyat (revealed knowledge) that the intellect can only deem as rationally possible, as well as the areas wherein the two (rational and revealed knowledge) are combined. They are in agreement in all areas of creed except in the issue of takwin and the issue of taqlid [in `aqidah].

    3. The people of ecstatic experience (wajd) and unveiling, and they are the Sufis.
    Their fundamentals are the fundamentals of the people of rational investigation and Hadith in the beginning, and that of unveiling and inspiration (ilham) in the end.

    (source: http://(www.************)/articles/a...uddinsubki.pdf

    The Jawharat at-Tawhid is the classical manual of Ash'ari Aqidah. Read it and ask if there is anything objectionable, you will find that it is nothing but the codification of the Qur'an and Sunnah: http://(************)/articles/JawharatalTawhid.pdf

    May Allah reward you for your concern and may he allow you to travel the path of Taqwa and Istiqamah, Ameen...

    Keep me in your duas,

    Wassalam

    Whenever it says "************", just replace it with www[DOT]marifah[DOT]net


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    Default Re: Please clear my doubts.....-An Ex ghayr muqallid

    wa alaikum as salam,
    brothers jazakallahu khair for your replies...
    brother suleimanibnsalim,
    i had asked about the numerology stuff....i think no imam ever practised it....was it a mistake
    on the part of the deobandi scholars or do they justify it???


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    Quote Originally Posted by seekeroftheway View Post
    wa alaikum as salam,
    brothers jazakallahu khair for your replies...
    brother suleimanibnsalim,
    i had asked about the numerology stuff....i think no imam ever practised it....was it a mistake
    on the part of the deobandi scholars or do they justify it???
    Assalamu'alaikum,

    I grew up in Malaysia generally under Shafi'e school. I went to many parts of the world and met a lot of international friends either muslims or non-muslims.

    Despite I saw the practices of other 3 main mazhab followers and salafi etc, I feel at ease and peace with Shafi'e methodology which I found adequately cover the intellectual aspect of human being that Allah swt bestow on us as Allah swt asks us to 'think/ponder about the creation of skies and earth, verily Allah swt creates all these without batil (no pupose/vain) and saves us from hell fire'. This is one of the verse in the Al-Qur'an and there are many other dalil qot'i from Al-Quran and Al-Hadith that stress on 'aql (brain/intellectual/wisdom etc). Our previous sahabah of Rasulullah pbuh and tabi'in and tabi'in have already gave a deep thought on this issue and settled down on ahlus sunnah wal jama'ah which prefers muslims to follow majority of ulama in the four main mazhab. Wallahu a'lam.


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