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    Default How many rakats to pray?

    Salaam brothers and sisters

    i have a question about how people pray different rakats and as to why

    about a year or so ago we had relatives over from singapore when they were reading namaaz say for zuhur they would read 2 sunnat 4 fard

    my mum dad and gran have just got back from singapore today

    and my dada noticed that people stil pray 2 sunnat and 4 fard for zuhur

    not does this only happen for zuhur it happens on all namaaz

    why 2 sunnat before 4 fard???

    any ideas?
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    Default Re: How many rakats to pray?

    Quote Originally Posted by agent-x View Post
    Salaam brothers and sisters

    i have a question about how people pray different rakats and as to why

    about a year or so ago we had relatives over from singapore when they were reading namaaz say for zuhur they would read 2 sunnat 4 fard

    my mum dad and gran have just got back from singapore today

    and my dada noticed that people stil pray 2 sunnat and 4 fard for zuhur

    not does this only happen for zuhur it happens on all namaaz

    why 2 sunnat before 4 fard???

    any ideas?


    As far as I know, the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) did not specify exactly how many Raka'ats of Sunnats to pray before Dhuhr, so I believe Imam Shafi'i (rahmatullahialayh) holds that it is better to pray two whilst Imam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullahialayh) believes it better to pray four. Lol, the Singapore Muslims probably find it just as strange that you pray four instead of two.
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    Default Re: How many rakats to pray?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ali al-Hanafi View Post


    As far as I know, the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) did not specify exactly how many Raka'ats of Sunnats to pray before Dhuhr, so I believe Imam Shafi'i (rahmatullahialayh) holds that it is better to pray two whilst Imam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullahialayh) believes it better to pray four. Lol, the Singapore Muslims probably find it just as strange that you pray four instead of two.
    lol yes more than likely they probably do

    do you know why Imam Shafi'i (rahmatullahialayh) said two and why Imam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullahialayh) said four?
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    Default Re: How many rakats to pray?

    Quote Originally Posted by agent-x View Post
    lol yes more than likely they probably do

    do you know why Imam Shafi'i (rahmatullahialayh) said two and why Imam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullahialayh) said four?


    Sorry, my mistake. My previous answer should have been with regards to Asr not Dhuhr. The Hanafi Madhab evidence:

    Rasulullah (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) has said: "Whoever performs four rakats before the fardh of zuhr and four rakats after it, Allah Ta’aala will make him haraam upon the fire of Jahannam". [Tirmidhi, Hadith no. 428]

    I don't know the Shafi'i Madhab's evidence but in 'Relience of the Traveller', page156 both two and four Rak'ats are mentioned. Maybe one of the Shafi'i brothers or sisters could clarify.
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    Default Re: How many rakats to pray?

    Quote Originally Posted by agent-x View Post
    Salaam brothers and sisters

    i have a question about how people pray different rakats and as to why

    about a year or so ago we had relatives over from singapore when they were reading namaaz say for zuhur they would read 2 sunnat 4 fard

    my mum dad and gran have just got back from singapore today

    and my dada noticed that people stil pray 2 sunnat and 4 fard for zuhur

    not does this only happen for zuhur it happens on all namaaz

    why 2 sunnat before 4 fard???

    any ideas?


    Sheikh Husain Abdul Sattar mentions in one of his lectures (I think it was in the one on Shamail Tirmidhi regarding the worship of Rasul ), that the Ahnaf use the hadith from Bukhari that Aisha said: "The Prophet never missed four Rakat before the Zuhr prayer and two Rakat before the Fajr prayer." http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/c...ml#002.021.276


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    Default Re: How many rakats to pray?

    Not going to mention directly a response to the questions, but I must bring out that incase of people traveling it is allowed to cut in half there rakats. if your asr and zuhr is 4 rakats it is 2 for the traveler. maghrib still the same 3 and fajr same. This is according to hanafi methab.

    Like recently I had gone to Malaysia and my brother in law the mufti lead a jamaat there and told the malay brothers that were traveling so we will pray asr in 2 rakats but you locals must finish 4 so when where done you guys stand and continue etc.


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    Default Re: How many rakats to pray?

    we are talking abouts the 4 sunnat before the fard

    in singapore the only pray 2 sunnat instead of 4 sunnat
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    Default Re: How many rakats to pray?

    Quote Originally Posted by agent-x View Post
    we are talking abouts the 4 sunnat before the fard

    in singapore the only pray 2 sunnat instead of 4 sunnat
    this is probaly because they follow shafi fiqh
    http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...=9952&CATE=339


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