The Secret?

[Abdur_Rahman]

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Sufism is not concerned with knowledge. Its whole concern is love, intense, passionate love: how to fall in love with the whole, how to be in tune with the whole, how to bridge the distance between the creation and the creator.
The so-called organized religions of the world teach a kind of duality, that the creator is separate from the creation, that the creator is higher than the creation, it has to be renounced. Sufi's don't renounce, they rejoice. And that's what I am teaching you here: Rejoice!
My sannyas is a way of rejoicing, not a way of renunciation.
Rumi has said:

If you are not one with the Beloved,
Seek!
And if you are in union,
Rejoice!

This assembly is a Sufi assembly. You are my Sufis, the Sufis of the new age. I am introducing you to the world of love. I am initiating you into the ways of love . . .



Please explain which tariqa is this according too

[ahsanirfan]

This is a typical example of a metaphysical exposition of spirituality. In other words, the person is trying to translate his emotion into words, which is in of itself an impossible task. So it sounds and seems very confusing. Such expositions belong in every Tariqa. This isn't restricted to one particular Tariqa. You have to realize here that this is not Aqeedah or Fiqh we are dealing with in this paragraph. It's pure emotion, and as such, does not necessarily require a particular methodological basis. Simply put, it's purely experiential.

[Mossy]

No, I think it's more along the lines of the fact that these guys aren't with any tariqa (nor claim to be) and are pseudo-sufis who are closer to Buddhism than anything else.

[ahsanirfan]

I hadn't taken a look at their website. I guess you are right about that. But the paragraph that he quoted, is something typical even of Islamic Tasawwuf. I know 'coz i hear it all the time.

[Abdur_Rahman]

You may not be able to see it. It is happening.
I am not just teaching you about God. I am not interested in giving you knowledge about God. I am sharing my God with you; it is a sharing. I want to challenge your God which is asleep inside you, to provoke it. And that is the work Sufis have been doing down the ages: provoking the potential into the actual.

This is something new isn't it?

[ahsanirfan]

You may not be able to see it. It is happening.
I am not just teaching you about God. I am not interested in giving you knowledge about God. I am sharing my God with you; it is a sharing. I want to challenge your God which is asleep inside you, to provoke it. And that is the work Sufis have been doing down the ages: provoking the potential into the actual.

This is something new isn't it?

Akhi, leave that website. It's dangerous. Sounds like a hijacking of Islamic Tasawwuf if you ask me. The only Tasawwuf that's valid is that which is done by Muslims, within the bounds of the Shariah. Period.

[Omar HH]

True "Tassawuf" must be connected to a chain that reaches to the Prophet

If it does not reach to the Prophet it is this new pseudo movement called "Sufism"

Jazakallahu Khayrun

[ahsanirfan]

You got that right.

[Abdur_Rahman]

True "Tassawuf" must be connected to a chain that reaches to the Prophet

If it does not reach to the Prophet it is this new pseudo movement called "Sufism"

Jazakallahu Khayrun

Chain as in narrations going back to the Rasul (sallahu alaihe wasalam)?

[Omar HH]

Chain as in narrations going back to the Rasul (sallahu alaihe wasalam)?

Not quite Akhi,

Tassawuf is the study of the inner self such as Fiqh is the study of the outerself, Tafsir is the study of the Qur'an or 'Aqidah is the study of beliefs. Tassawuf which claims to be a new religion or sect or has bid'ah (blameworthy innovations) is not really Tassawuf but hides behind this name.

As with all fields of study one must learn from a teacher who learned from a teacher who learned from a teacher which goes back to the Prophet

As knowledge was not codified in the very begining, the knowledge (of how to get rid of the bad conditions of the heart, and to eliminate the nafs so that the soul can see Allah or know Allah) was not really "written down." The first people to write down the principles were Junayd and Hasan al-Basri (100 AH). Then different schools of Tassawuf developed which are essentially the same but have a few different principles in their way - these schools are like Naqshbandi, Shadhili, Melevi, Ba'Alawi, etc.

This is not much different from the schools of fiqh (Hanafi, Shafii, Hanbali, Maliki) or the schools of 'aqidah (Ashari, Maturidi and Athari) which only differ on a few arbitrary points. The first hadith collections and the first 'aqeedah texts (such as Al Tahawiyah which was written 300 AH) where finally codified after the first few generations.

If you really understand Tassawuf you will see that it is just a branch of knowledge that has been taught by the Ullema for centuries from Imam Nawawi, Shaykh 'Abdul Qadir al-Jilani, Imam al-Ghazali, Imam Malik etc.

Even the primary texts of hadith speak of the state of "Ma'Arifah" or knowing Allah.

The tariqa is given by a Shaykh who has mastered the path to Allah (SWT) and has eliminated his ego and seen Allah with his soul. A murid or disciple pledges loyalty to him and this Shaykh teaches the murid the way to the path until the person has eliminated all the bad states of the heart and reached Ma'Arifah.

Jazakallahu Khayrun