Are sufis bad people?

[Nasrollah]

Salafi people dislike sufis very much

My Pakistani Ustadz used to call the students whom he dislike as sufi

Who are sufis?

[abuhajira]

Salafi people dislike sufis very much

My Pakistani Ustadz used to call the students whom he dislike as sufi

Who are sufis?

Salafi people are not a standard to judge anything... so why even bother..

As for Pakistani Ustadh in your madrassah, I can tell this much that Sufi has become a term in pakistan to show laziness. So teachers may call someone sufi who dont do their school work properly under the pretense that they have awraad and adhkar or nawafil to do.

This is aside from the fact that there are numerous jahil sufiya all around, who like to sit around and reap money and food from their mureeds...

However this should not blemish the Real Tasawwuf (path of the sufis). Sufis make their own glory. Those who have been in company and met some, would know.. Btw how is the company of Mufti Ridha'ul Haq db.? Or Maulana Abdul Hameed db. in JNB? Are they bad people? I would like to hear your personal answer on this..

[sudoku]

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What Is Tasawwuf

Tasawwuf is a branch of Islamic knowledge which focuses on the spiritual development of the Muslim.

Allah sent His final messenger, Prophet Muhammad , as a source of knowledge for the entire ummah. He was the fountain of Quran, Hadith, tafsir, rhetoric, fiqh, and so on. After the Prophet, the scholars of this ummah carried and propagated each of these branches of knowledge. Because no one person can attain the perfection of the Prophet , who single handedly assumed all of these roles, various branches of the Islamic sciences developed. For example, Imam Abu Hanifah preserved the science of fiqh and after him thousands of scholars continued in his footsteps. Hence these scholars preserved the fiqh of the Prophet . Similarly Imam Bukhari and the other famous scholars of Hadith, preserved the words of the Prophet. The scholars of tajweed preserved the recitation of the Prophet . And, the scholars of Arabic grammar preserved the language of the Prophet .

Along these lines, the Prophet was the model of spirituality for the world. His God-consciousness, deep spirituality, acts of worship, and love for Allah were preserved and propagated by an Islamic science called Tasawwuf. The aim of the scholars of this science was purification of the heart, and development of consciousness of Allah through submission to the shariah and sunnah.
How is Tasawwuf Related to Sufism?

Studying the life of the Prophet , the scholars who propagated the science of tasawwuf understood that a requisite for approaching Allah was abandonment of the common pursuits of the world. They often wore wool because of its simplicity and low cost. In Arabic the word for wool is suf and thus, those who wore it became known as the Sufis. Another possible derivation of the word comes from the root word safa, which means "to clean." Because the scholars of tasawwuf focused on cleansing the heart, they later became known as the Sufis.

What Do Our Scholars Say About Tasawwuf?

Traditional Islamic scholars have accepted Tasawwuf as an important branch of Islamic learning, so long as it remains within the guidelines of the Shariah and emphasizes following the Sunnah of the Prophet .

* On Moderation - Imam Rabbani (may Allah be pleased with him)
* The Inner Dimensions of Fasting - Imam Abu Hamid al-Ghazali (may Allah be pleased with him)
* Maulana Jami - Excerpts from the poems of Maulana Jami (may Allah be pleased with him)
* Maulana Saadi - Excerpts from the poems of Maulana Saadi (may Allah be pleased with him)
* What is Tasawwuf? - Condensed from the writings of Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi (may Allah be pleased with him)
* Fighting the Ego - Imam Nawawi (may Allah be pleased with him)

I Have Heard That Sufis Teach Praying At Graves, Dancing, Music, And Other Innovations?

It is true that there have been, and currently are, people who have deviated from the teachings of tasawwuf, thus misrepresenting this science. This is not unique to tasawwuf. Our history is full of examples of people who called themselves scholars of tafsir, or hadith while misrepresenting the essence of these sciences. Each of the Islamic sciences is interlinked and bounded by its sister sciences. For example, a scholar of tafsir cannot interpret the Quran by contradicting the hadith. Similarly a true shaykh of tasawwuf (sufism) never breaks even the smallest tenets of the shariah or the sunnah. Rather, he sees them as the means of his progress towards his Lord. In fact, he prefers death over falling into even a minute sin.

I saw a holy man on the seashore wounded by a tiger.
No medicine could relieve his pain; He suffered much,
but he nevertheless constantly thanked God, the most high, saying,
"Praise be to Allah that I have fallen into a calamity and not into sin."
If Not All Sufis Are Authentic How Can I Judge Which To Learn From?

Many of our scholars have addressed this question by listing the "signs" of a true shaykh. Needless to say the common principle has always been submission to the shariah, by following the teachings of one of the four schools of fiqh, and a complete submission to the inner and the outer of the sunnah. This is based on the idea that the Prophet is the nearest and most God conscious of Allah's creation. His daily acts are an exemplification of how the most God-conscious of all of creation lived his life. For example, the Prophet's treating others with kindness, soft speech, humility, preference for white clothing, growing of a lengthy beard, use of the tooth stick, etc are all intentional acts of service to Allah . If someone lacks these sunnan, while claiming they can help bring you closer to Allah, know that they will eventually lead you to a dead end.

What Is The Goal Of The Student Of Tasawwuf?

The goal is complete submission to the shariah and sunnah in order to attain purification of the heart and soul and to develop a true, deep, and lasting connection with Allah .

Now after reading the following extract, one should come to the conclusion that sufis (ie those who follow the esteemed path of tasawwuf/tadhkiyatun nafs) are doing nothing wrong. Yes, a few bad apples may be there, but that is the case with every path that a person may tread upon.

[Nasrollah]

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Now after reading the following extract, one should come to the conclusion that sufis (ie those who follow the esteemed path of tasawwuf/tadhkiyatun nafs) are doing nothing wrong. Yes, a few bad apples may be there, but that is the case with every path that a person may tread upon.

Jazakomollah, I thought they are bad! Now I know. So must I get cross if someone call me sufi because Im not sufi in reality?

[abuhajira]

Jazakomollah, I thought they are bad! Now I know. So must I get cross if someone call me sufi because Im not sufi in reality?

If someone say sufi to you, then make dua that his words come true. and just reply that Jazak Allah for thinking so high of me..

Being a sufi is not bad.. I am still awaiting your reply to my post..

[marco100]

If someone say sufi to you, then make dua that his words come true. and just reply that Jazak Allah for thinking so high of me..

Being a sufi is not bad.. I am still awaiting your reply to my post..

So why do pseudo salafis say it's "wrong"?

Is it because of past experiences with fake sufis?

Or because they tend to follow the more literal interpretation and therefore rigid form of Islam?

Or both?

I'm very ignorant on Tasawuuf even though I fully accept it's part of Islam. Some simplications would be welcomed.

Jazakallah.

[Al-Faruqi]

Usually when they refer to the term "sufi" they mean the shirk/biddah practicing fake-sufi. (From my own experience, other pseudo-salafies may differ.)

[tell_the_truth]

assalamo alaykom.

i dont know any sufi except those who dance while remembering Allah doing zikr, they go to graves and have these behaviors which islam didnt teach us....i have a bad idea about them, plus i know a sufi who even agree with shiaism, he say that he is half sunni half shiaa HUH? thats what he say, he insult Mu'awiya(ra) and abu sufyan......and bcz of him and bcz of those who dance while Remembering Allah and sing and use musical instruments ... i hate sufism


so i am just surprised that sunni here love sufism and after reading what sudoko posted well ok i understand now that there are GOOD sufi and there are the BAD ones....well the bad ones are more than the good ones. sadly.

thats my opinion....thanks for sharing bro/sis

assalamo alaykom

[sudoku]

assalamo alaykom.

i dont know any sufi except those who dance while remembering Allah doing zikr, they go to graves and have these behaviors which islam didnt teach us....i have a bad idea about them, plus i know a sufi who even agree with shiaism, he say that he is half sunni half shiaa HUH? thats what he say, he insult Mu'awiya(ra) and abu sufyan......and bcz of him and bcz of those who dance while Remembering Allah and sing and use musical instruments ... i hate sufism


so i am just surprised that sunni here love sufism and after reading what sudoko posted well ok i understand now that there are GOOD sufi and there are the BAD ones....well the bad ones are more than the good ones. sadly.

thats my opinion....thanks for sharing bro/sis

assalamo alaykom

Well I am glad my post has clarified somethings for you, . You will find in anything that those who do things contrary to the teachings of Islam are usually the one that are focused upon, so one does not see the sincere ones who are truly trying to practice cleansing their souls and making efforts to come closer to Allah.

[tell_the_truth]

Well I am glad my post has clarified somethings for you, . You will find in anything that those who do things contrary to the teachings of Islam are usually the one that are focused upon, so one does not see the sincere ones who are truly trying to practice cleansing their souls and making efforts to come closer to Allah.

assalamo alaykom sister ... i agree with u, now after thinking about it, i see that the true sufi wont be famous since they worship Allah silently while those who make islam look bad will be known since they seek attention with their bad behaviors.
we dont see the good sufi bcz they go away so they worship Allah far from ppl.

thanks again for clearing things to me...May Allah bless u sis . amin

assalamo alaykom