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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasema View Post

    Aldough,is this hadeeth encouraging to love a kaffir relative?
    I have one, when it comes to him and me arguing, after that, I could never have any love stored for him,rather fury. I don't think it is possible to love an ex-Muslim. I can't even stand the Muslims who sin big. Why? then, I would be satisfied with them which would make me like tham.

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    Ah, my posting the story was in fact not to show encouragement of loving a kaafir, rather showing that even if there may be the tiniest bit of unintentional love for one's family, that should not stop one from fulfilling Allah's commands. Not everyone is so strong, and for some it takes a longer time than others to stop loving a person you loved your whole life. It all has to do with how clean you nafs is and how in love you are with Allah. For some it takes their whole lives to reach that state. But Allah sees the efforts made, and will be pleased with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sudoku View Post


    Ah, my posting the story was in fact not to show encouragement of loving a kaafir, rather showing that even if there may be the tiniest bit of unintentional love for one's family, that should not stop one from fulfilling Allah's commands. Not everyone is so strong, and for some it takes a longer time than others to stop loving a person you loved your whole life. It all has to do with how clean you nafs is and how in love you are with Allah. For some it takes their whole lives to reach that state. But Allah sees the efforts made, and will be pleased with them.
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    I see.
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    Salaam

    Oh my! What a debate to a simple question.

    Thank you for the answer to my actual question. So claim body from morgue and bury in non-Muslim cemetery without any rituals at all.

    For the record - I never once stated I had love for my apostate sister. All I said was I didn't wish her dead. In a Muslim country I would agree with the punishment for apostates. In this country she goes her way I go mine - I do not sit here wishing her death because I am actually indifferent to her (and once upon a time we were so close). So I am sorry for all the heat generated in this thread because someone decided to measure my depth of love or lack of for an apostate based on one written sentence.
    Last edited by Saj; 18-10-2009 at 02:49 PM. Reason: spelling mistake


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali_Hasnain View Post
    37.19 CRIMES AGAINST ISLAM

    A freethinker (zindiq) must be put to death and his repentance is rejected. A freethinker is one who conceals his unbelief and pretends to follow Islam. A magician also is to be put to death, and his repentance also is to be rejected. A apostate is also killed unless he repents. He is allowed three days grace; if he fails to utilise the chance to repent, the execution takes place. This same also applies to women apostates.

    If a person who is not an apostate admits that prayer is obligatory but will not perform it, then such a person is given an opportunity to recant by the time of the next prayer; if he does not utilise the opportunity to repent and resume worship, he is then executed. If a Muslim refuses to perform the pilgrimage, he should be left alone and God himself shall decide this case. If a Muslim should abandon the performance of prayer because he disputes its being obligatory, then such a person shall be treated as an apostate - he should be given three days within which to repent. If the three days lapse without his repenting, he is then executed.

    Whoever abuses the Messenger of God - peace and blessing of God be upon him - is to be executed, and his repentance is not accepted.

    If any dhimmi (by 'dhimmi' is meant a non-Muslim subject living in a Muslim country) curses the Prophet - peace be upon him - or abuses him by saying something other than what already makes him an unbeliever, or abuses God Most High by saying something other than what already makes him an unbeliever, he is to be executed unless at that juncture he accepts Islam.

    The property of an apostate after his execution is to be shared by the Muslim community.


    [Al-Risala of Imam Abi Zaid al-Maliki]



    1) There is a huge difference between an apostate and a disbeliever legally speaking.

    2) Who told you that the woman from the Bani Israil was a kaffira? Allah [SWT] forgives all sins save Shirk.
    Who is Imam Abi Zaid al-Maliki? What's the difference between a zindeeq and a murtad?


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