Query regarding shaykh abdul baki and Shaykh Mahmud Effendi

[kayra]

Are Shaykh 'Abdul-Baqi al-Husayni and Shaykh Mahmud Efendi both murshids in their own right or is the latter the former's khalifa?

In other words, what is their connection?

My knowledge of Shaykh Mahmut Efendi is extremely limited. Most of it comes from a sister who left him to join our Shaykh a few years ago (and I have no idea why, because she says that Mahmut Efendi was a great Shaikh). I don't know of any connection at all.

This is the silsile chain of Shaikh Abdulbaki el-Husayni. The spelling is adapted from the Turkish, so if any name seems really unfamiliar, try saying it out loud a few times and you'll probably understand what I was trying to write!

Hz. Muhammed (saw)
Hz. Ebubekr Siddik (ra)
Selman-i Farisi Hz. (ra)
Ebu Muhammed Kasim Hz. (ra)
Imam Jafer-i Sadik Hz. (ra)
Bayezid-i Bistami
Ebu Hasen Harakani
Ebu Ali Farmedi
Haje Yusuf Hemedani i
Abdülhalik Güjdevani
Haje Arif-i Rivegeri
Haje Mahmud Injiri Faghnevi
Haje Ali Ramiteni
Muhammed Baba Semmasi
Seyyid Emir Külal
Shah-i Nakshibend
Alaeddin Attar
Yakub-i Cherhi
Ubeydullah Ahrar
Mevlana Muhammed Zahid
Mevlana Dervish Muhammed
Haje Muhammed Emkeneki
Muhammed Baki Billah
Imam-i Rabbani
Muhammed Ma’sum
Mevlana Muhammed Seyfeddin Faruki
Seyyid Nur Muhammed Bedauni
Mirza Mazhar Jan-i Janan
Abdullah-i Dihlevi
Mevlana Halid-i Baghdadi
Mevlana Seyyid Abdullah Hakkari
Seyyid Taha Hakkari
Seyyid Sibgatullah Arvasi
Abdurrahman Tahi
Fethullah Verkanisi
Muhammed Diyaeddin Nurshini
Ahmed Haznevi
Gavs Seyyid Abdulhakim Bilvanisi el-Huseyni
Seyyid Muhammed Rashid el-Huseyni
Gavs-i Sani Seyyid Abdulbaki el-Huseyni

I believe Seyyid Abdulhakim el-Huseyni was the first to come to Turkey (from Syria). He was the father of our current Shaikh, and is buried in Menzil, may Allah be pleased with him and have mercy on all our souls.

[Abu Salma]

JazakiLlahu khayran.

[Slave-Of-Allah]

Asalamualaykum w w

Inshallah some brother is planning to go turkey in the near future.......he would like to meet shaykh mahmud effendi and shaykh abdul baki.........but before he meets them he has some queries..

As salamu alaikum brother,

What happend did the brother go and did he meet them ? If so what was his experience with them especially with Shaykh Abdul Baki

[hussainahmed]

very interested and happy on learning that turkey has many great saints. do these shoyookh have a khankah or a place of residence where a person can go for spiritual rectification.?

[seeker_ikb]

very interested and happy on learning that turkey has many great saints. do these shoyookh have a khankah or a place of residence where a person can go for spiritual rectification.?

Yes, Shaykh Abdul Baki (DB) has a khanqah in his native village called Menzil located in Adiyaman in Turkey.

[hussainahmed]

i would like to visit both shaykh abul baki and shaykh mahmood. i would like to know what language they speak and how would a person from the uk communicate with them.

jaza kallah

[kayra]

i would like to visit both shaykh abul baki and shaykh mahmood. i would like to know what language they speak and how would a person from the uk communicate with them.

jaza kallah

Our Shaykh (Abdulbaki) doesn't speak much But his whole family speaks at least Arabic and Turkish that I've heard myself. But there are always multi-lingual mureeds there. Just last week I called up a resident mureed (a sister who stays there long-term) and she was telling me about some sisters who came that day from China!

[Khali]

Asalamualaykum w w

Inshallah some brother is planning to go turkey in the near future

It will be a tough job to find a real shaykh in Turkey.

[Abdul Majeed]

Our Shaykh (Abdulbaki) doesn't speak much But his whole family speaks at least Arabic and Turkish that I've heard myself. But there are always multi-lingual mureeds there. Just last week I called up a resident mureed (a sister who stays there long-term) and she was telling me about some sisters who came that day from China!

I am from Poland, sister I know some Polish murids of seyyid Abdul Baki

Can you post me some info in English about him? I have never ever heard him talking, although there are lots of films "praising" him (singing about him) on youtube. I know some of his murids in London (they are Turkish), living in Hackney and going to Aziziye Camii (Mosque).

About sheikh Mahmud efendi Ustaosmanoglu I know even less, because I don't know any murids of him.

[Vedat]

Selamualejkum!

Let's say, I am new to faith. So, please, tolerate my ignorance .

One thing is for sure, I would love to meet this man, InshAllah.

Is this possible to go and visit whenever you want?

Can You say something about this:

''Silent dhikr, under a (white) cover. Novices start off with 5000 repetitions, and do dhikr with their heart. Advanced murids do dhikr with their other letayyif as well (forehead, etc.). I'm an extreme novice, so I'm not the best person to give details on this.'', like kayra said?

Can I, an extreme ''beginner'' start with this on my own?

I have a friend who has visited shaikh Abdul Baki and he knows a lot of things, but I also wanted to ask You the above as well.

I have so many questions

May Allah reward You all with health and knowledge, InshAllah.