Imkan al-Kidhb

[Salleyye]

The author of this and similar articles argues that saying "it rationally possible that Allah can lie, but does not, is to say that He can have a flaw ... Tell me, if this is not kufr, then what is?" and he proceeds to furnish his argument with proofs.

Can one of the scholars on this board please clarify the opinion of the Deobandi akabir on this issue? I ask in the hopes that someone will reinforce my faith in the great scholars of the past, because reading some of these things has caused me doubt, and I don't think it's healthy.

[Hijazi]

Rasheed Ahmed Gangohi said in his book:
Photocopy of original Fatwa:
Ahmed Gangohi.JPG
Fatawa-e-Rasheedia, vol. 1 pg. 20, lines 11,12,14 and 15 (published: Kutub Khana Raheemia, Delhi - Press: Jayyad Barqi Press, Delhi)

"The meaning of the possibility of (Allah) lying is that it is within the power of Allah to lie, meaning that whatever punishment has been promised (for the Kuffaar or sinners) by Allah, He has the Power to do the opposite to that even if He does not do it. Possibility does not necessarily mean occurance, but that it can occur ... . So the beliefs of all the Scholars, Sufis and Ulema of Islam is that lies are within the Power of Allah. (Allah can lie)."

This absurdity is not limited to this particular person.

It is also endorsed by Khalil Ahmed Ambethwi in his book.
Photocopy of original Fatwa:
Fatwa Ahmed Ambethwi - Allah can Lie.JPG
In his book: Baraheen-e-Qatiah, pg. 278, lines 13, 14

"This is the meaning of Imkaan-e-Kizb (Possibility of telling a lie) that Allah ta'ala has the power of telling lies but this will not happen."


Reply from Ahle Sunnah (genuine ahle sunnah...)

The entire Ummah is unanimous in its decision that lies and falsehood are extremely despicable attributes. They have considered it to a personal defect. Lies is a defect which is not worthy of the being (zaat) of Allah ta'ala and is totally Muhaal (Impossible) for Allah ta'ala. Allah azza wajal is free from all shortages and defects thus making lies Muhaal for Allah Paak. But there are certain deobandis who insist that Allah ta'ala has the power to speak a lie. Not only this, but that He can also reveal lies to His prophets and Angels! Allah forbid!

In their twisted logic, they have put forward the proof that when man has the power to speak lies, why does Allah Ta'ala not possess the same power. If Allah ta'ala did not possess this power, then He would be les powerful than man. Therefore, the say, we have to accept that Allah ta'ala can speak a lie! These certain Deobandis in their twisted logic have not only attributed a defect for Allah ta'ala, but also deliberately contradicted the unanimous decision of the Ummah, is apparent from both the books. We should remember that lies and falsehood are defects and that Allah ta'ala is pure of all defects. These defects are impossible for Allah Paak, but are possible for man. - Exposing the Tableeghi/Deobandi/Wahabi Sect, Publisher: Sunni World, P.O. Box 48928 QUALBERT 4078 DURBAN SOUTH AFRICA


I hope that should clear some things up.

Is anyone interested in a photocopy of an original fatwa where it is said that the scholars of deoband taught the prophet sallallahu wa aleihi wasalam Urdu?

[Ahmed]

this is truly an age of shaitaaniat when muslims fear not in asking the most ridiculous and dangerous questions

when the basics of sunnah and mustahabbaat are not even known by many

[Nomadic]

Scholastic work is needed in academic circle otherwise understanading becomes stagnent. The point is this should not be discussed in front of the laymen. One has to question the motive of those people who often exposes these types of work to untrained individual. Speak to the people of their level. Anyone who has a problem with scholastic discourse is simply regressive.
A capable scholar must be equipped to rebuttal. This is confined to realm of scholarship domain.

[The Fake Shaykh]

http://www.deoband.org/2010/08/histo...kan-al-kadhib/