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    Default Men - Beautiful black eyed hoors , what do women get?

    As salamulaikum Bros and Sis,

    This is my first post. I have a question which every suffragists asks" Men get black eyed virgin women but what to women get? Are the women changed to these black eyed hoors? JK . Seriously, I need an answer to shut the mouths of those ppl who say " ISLAM is Sexist"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper420
    As salamulaikum Bros and Sis,

    This is my first post. I have a question which every suffragists asks" Men get black eyed virgin women but what to women get? Are the women changed to these black eyed hoors? JK . Seriously, I need an answer to shut the mouths of those ppl who say " ISLAM is Sexist"

    Allah Hafiz
    First of all Shaykh Hamza explained something like this:

    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...4&postcount=18



    Now, Allah says about jannah that it is something no eye has seen, and it never occurred to the human heart. So, when you look at the other descriptions of paradise in the Qur'an, you have to know that those are approximations. Do not think that Allah is describing physical types of things that we know of in this world. That is what Imam Al-Ghazali said, and that is what the 'ulama say. One of the things that some people are trying to use against Islam is that they say we envision paradise as being this type of sexual romp or something like that, which is a terrible thing. For the human being, the highest level of pleasure is in sexual relations, and therefore, it would be appropriate, according to what Imam Al-Ghazali says, to give some indication of the pleasures of paradise by talking about something that human beings know about, which is that experience, because the majority of human beings do not have intense mystical experiences in their life. There are mystics who do have these experiences that are very profound and intense, but most people do not. The most intense experience that they will have of pleasure is in this act, and when Allah describes the pleasures of paradise, He uses those examples because they are close to people's understandings.


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    ...or u could look at it this way

    most men are weak fools with regards to controlling their sexual desires.
    they need the promise of sexual gratification in the next life in order for them to remain calm and collected in this life.

    women on the other hand do not suffer from such inherent weaknesses.
    they also have desire, but they are far better than men at controlling their desires so that they are able to remain level headed even when faced with slight temptations.


    a baby needs to be placated some times...

    [just a view...im no thinker]



    Allah knows best...thats the muslim belief....the quran caters for all types of humans.


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    As salamua alaikum

    What we forget is: firstly, it doesn't say women will not experience these things that men will- in fact, they will have husbands who will satisfy them. As well, perhaps mentioning a woman's pleasure there would be more immodest, since, in the duniya men can have wives, whereas men may get jealous if women had more than one. And do women actually value, on the whole, multiple husbands? Whatever Allah SWT has ordained for us right.

    Not only that, but women are not turned to hoors- actually, they are like queens in paradise. They will be much more beautiful than the hoors, and their husbands will be desirous of them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cantthinkofausername
    most men are weak fools with regards to controlling their sexual desires.
    they need the promise of sexual gratification in the next life in order for them to remain calm and collected in this life.

    women on the other hand do not suffer from such inherent weaknesses.
    they also have desire, but they are far better than men at controlling their desires so that they are able to remain level headed even when faced with slight temptations.

    When every men will understand your words , i think the issue of fitna will be completely removed. Right now , lot of mens considering the women like walking fitna, like she could not talk with other gender because her brain would be thinking in wrong way, at other things.


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    Quote Originally Posted by amal
    Right now , lot of mens considering the women like walking fitna, like she could not talk with other gender because her brain would be thinking in wrong way, at other things.


    I think its not that they (women) shouldnt or cant talk to men but the men shouldnt talk unnecessarily to them (which is a different way of looking at it) because of reasons which bro cantthinkofusername mentioned so rightly.



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    I differ however, with the view that women don't suffer from desire and that they somehow don't get tempted or have to control themselves. This is a common misconception because many women will be more shy to share that, and less likely to act upon them.


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    in jannah there will be no roohaani ilness at all,hasad avarice etc
    therefore the guy with a small jannah will be happy and so will the guy with a big jannah,the guy who gets to see allah every friday and the guy who can see him whenever,or gal .everyone will be happy,we musnt think along this temporal wordly lines .all will be happy regardless of what others have


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    salam,

    i heard they get handsome slaves - but dont know if they have sexual contact with them.


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    Yeah I heard that women get male servents too? I think it was in the Ihya translation as "Gelman" whatever that means.


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