Men - Beautiful black eyed hoors , what do women get?
As salamulaikum Bros and Sis,
This is my first post. I have a question which every suffragists asks" Men get black eyed virgin women but what to women get? Are the women changed to these black eyed hoors?JK . Seriously, I need an answer to shut the mouths of those ppl who say " ISLAM is Sexist"
Allah Hafiz
First of all Shaykh Hamza explained something like this:Originally Posted by sniper420
As salamulaikum Bros and Sis,
This is my first post. I have a question which every suffragists asks" Men get black eyed virgin women but what to women get? Are the women changed to these black eyed hoors?
Allah Hafiz
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...4&postcount=18
Now, Allah says about jannah that it is something no eye has seen, and it never occurred to the human heart. So, when you look at the other descriptions of paradise in the Qur'an, you have to know that those are approximations. Do not think that Allah is describing physical types of things that we know of in this world. That is what Imam Al-Ghazali said, and that is what the 'ulama say. One of the things that some people are trying to use against Islam is that they say we envision paradise as being this type of sexual romp or something like that, which is a terrible thing. For the human being, the highest level of pleasure is in sexual relations, and therefore, it would be appropriate, according to what Imam Al-Ghazali says, to give some indication of the pleasures of paradise by talking about something that human beings know about, which is that experience, because the majority of human beings do not have intense mystical experiences in their life. There are mystics who do have these experiences that are very profound and intense, but most people do not. The most intense experience that they will have of pleasure is in this act, and when Allah describes the pleasures of paradise, He uses those examples because they are close to people's understandings.
...or u could look at it this way
most men are weak fools with regards to controlling their sexual desires.
they need the promise of sexual gratification in the next life in order for them to remain calm and collected in this life.
women on the other hand do not suffer from such inherent weaknesses.
they also have desire, but they are far better than men at controlling their desires so that they are able to remain level headed even when faced with slight temptations.
a baby needs to be placated some times...
[just a view...im no thinker]
Allah knows best...thats the muslim belief....the quran caters for all types of humans.
As salamua alaikum
What we forget is: firstly, it doesn't say women will not experience these things that men will- in fact, they will have husbands who will satisfy them. As well, perhaps mentioning a woman's pleasure there would be more immodest, since, in the duniya men can have wives, whereas men may get jealous if women had more than one. And do women actually value, on the whole, multiple husbands? Whatever Allah SWT has ordained for us right.
Not only that, but women are not turned to hoors- actually, they are like queens in paradise. They will be much more beautiful than the hoors, and their husbands will be desirous of them.
When every men will understand your words, i think the issue of fitna will be completely removed. Right now , lot of mens considering the women like walking fitna, like she could not talk with other gender because her brain would be thinking in wrong way, at other things.
I think its not that they (women) shouldnt or cant talk to men but the men shouldnt talk unnecessarily to them (which is a different way of looking at it) because of reasons which bro cantthinkofusername mentioned so rightly.
I differ however, with the view that women don't suffer from desire and that they somehow don't get tempted or have to control themselves. This is a common misconception because many women will be more shy to share that, and less likely to act upon them.
If men will be rewarded with a certain number of chaste partners in Jannah, then what will women be rewarded with?
While a man will get many Hurs in jannah, a women would be made the queen of Jannah. Her beauty will far outshine the beauty of the hurs.
Umme Salamah R.A narrates that she said to Rasūlullah SAW "O Rasūlullah, are the women of this world superior or the hūrs?" He replied, "The women of this world will have superiority over the hūrs just as the outer lining of a garment has superiority over the inner lining."
Umme Salamah R.A then asked, "O Rasūlullah, what is the reason for this?" He answered, "Because they performed salāh, fasted, and worshipped [Allah]. Allah will put light on their faces and silk on their bodies. [The human women] will be fair in complexion and will wear green clothing and yellow jewelry. Their incense-burners will be made of pearls and their combs will be of gold. They will say, 'We are the women who will stay forever and we will never die. We are the women who will always remain in comfort and we will never undergo difficulty. We are the women who will stay and we will never leave. Listen, we are happy women and we will never become sad. Glad tidings to those men for whom we are and who are for us.'" (Tabrānī)
Muhammed ibn Ka'b Al-Qurazi t narrates from a person of the Ansār (people of Madīnah) that Rasūlullah SAW said, "I take the oath of that Being who sent me with the truth, you are not more acquainted with your wives and houses than the people of Jannat. A person of Jannat will come to 72 wives which Allah specially created in Jannat (hūrs) and 2 human wives. The human wives will have virtue over the [hūrs] because they worshipped Allah in the world.(Targheeb Vol.4 Pg.534)
This will be the high position of the women of the world in Jannah.
If a women had more than one husband, she will choose which one of them to stay with, and she will choose the one with the best character. As for those women who never married or their husband were mushriks, they will be allowed to marry whichever worldly man, they so wish, in Jannah. Thus every man in Jannah will have 2 wives from the world.
If we have full conviction in Allah's promise that he will fulfil our every desire in Jannah, then instead of worrying about what they will get in jannah, the women should concentrate their endeavours on pleasing Allah and thus getting to Jannah. As for pleasing us in Jannah, That is Allah responsibility, so he will do His and we should do ours. The greatest pleasure in Jannah for men and women will be the very pleasure of Allah. Everything else will be secondary.
and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=10610
And if he were to ask for a gentle lady in marriage, he would be refused, and when he leaves the world it does not miss him, and if he goes out, his going out is not noticed, and if he falls sick, he is not attended to, and if he dies, he is not accompanied to his grave.
in jannah there will be no roohaani ilness at all,hasad avarice etc
therefore the guy with a small jannah will be happy and so will the guy with a big jannah,the guy who gets to see allah every friday and the guy who can see him whenever,or gal.everyone will be happy,we musnt think along this temporal wordly lines
.all will be happy regardless of what others have
salam,
i heard they get handsome slaves - but dont know if they have sexual contact with them.
wslm
Last edited by sahih-baba; 26-04-2005 at 07:15 PM.
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