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    Where is the proof that the Quran is unchanged, and the Bible is? What is your perspective? I mean no offense, just looking for answers. Thanks.

    When i ask for proof it's either devine,physical or literal.
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    Default Re: What proof?

    Quote Originally Posted by streetwalker View Post
    Thats it? Christians claim the same.


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    Default Re: What proof?

    Quote Originally Posted by Italianguy View Post
    Thats it? Christians claim the same.
    Not really

    The Roman Catholic encyclopedia admits the Bible has been altered!

    No book of ancient times has come down to us exactly as it left the hands of its author--all have been in some way altered.
    Source: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14530a.htm

    And go through the evidences of Muslims claim, instead saying what others claim!

    And dont forget that protestant denies to accept 6-7 part of bible where catholics take those part as part of bible! If there would be a correct bible, even christians major groups would not disagree
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    Default Re: What proof?

    Quote Originally Posted by streetwalker View Post
    Not really

    The Roman Catholic encyclopedia admits the Bible has been altered!



    Source: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14530a.htm

    And go through the evidences of Muslims claim, instead saying what others claim!

    And dont forget that protestant denies to accept 6-7 part of bible where catholics take those part as part of bible! If there would be a correct bible, even christians major groups would disagree
    I am protestant, and i meant no insult to you. Keep in mind i am not here to denounce your faith. Just to learn. That qoute you sent as well said no books of the ancient times is unchanged, doen't that include the Quran? Is it a new book? When was it conceived and written? Who wrote it, Mohamad himself or someone or some others from his word? Thanks


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    Default Re: What proof?

    Quote Originally Posted by streetwalker View Post
    Not really

    The Roman Catholic encyclopedia admits the Bible has been altered!



    Source: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14530a.htm

    And go through the evidences of Muslims claim, instead saying what others claim!

    And dont forget that protestant denies to accept 6-7 part of bible where catholics take those part as part of bible! If there would be a correct bible, even christians major groups would disagree
    I also forgot to ask, does Islam believe all of the Bible is corrupt? Or just the New Testament?


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    Default Re: What proof?

    Quote Originally Posted by Italianguy View Post
    I am protestant, and i meant no insult to you. Keep in mind i am not here to denounce your faith.
    its ok. i know you didnt insult.
    Quote Originally Posted by Italianguy View Post
    That qoute you sent as well said no books of the ancient times is unchanged, doen't that include the Quran?
    Its refering to their own scriptures.
    Quote Originally Posted by Italianguy View Post
    Is it a new book? When was it conceived and written? Who wrote it, Mohamad himself or someone or some others from his word? Thanks
    Did you read those links which i gave? those answers it allready.


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    Default Re: What proof?

    Quote Originally Posted by streetwalker View Post
    its ok. i know you didnt insult.

    Its refering to their own scriptures.

    Did you read those links which i gave? those answers it allready.
    Oh sorry i will look at them soon my computer is running slow and keeps freezing when i try to open them. I will read them tonight. Thanks


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    Default Re: What proof?

    Brother Italian
    I like your softly softly approach. Well here is a softly one for you:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQFXuZRLMTY
    Who else would be able to tell you more clearly than him how the Injil (Bible) has been 'revised' over the years!
    In the rouse of the new awakening and global "Islam-asization" will the world be more chaotic or will there more love and tolerance?


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    Default Re: What proof?

    Quote Originally Posted by Italianguy View Post
    I am protestant, and i meant no insult to you. Keep in mind i am not here to denounce your faith. Just to learn. That qoute you sent as well said no books of the ancient times is unchanged, doen't that include the Quran? Is it a new book? When was it conceived and written? Who wrote it, Mohamad himself or someone or some others from his word? Thanks
    Hello Italianguy,

    The Quran was not written, it was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). The Quran is the eternal uncreated speech of Allah (swt). Didn't understand what that meant? Read this:

    http://sunnianswers.wordpress.com/ca...s/kalamspeech/

    I urge you to read these logics, that are explained in Islam before you continue:

    http://sunnianswers.files.wordpress....e-religion.pdf

    P.S. I will, God willing, provide you info of how accurate the Quran is perhaps later on this week.
    Last edited by TheHumbleOne; 28-10-2009 at 09:58 PM.


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