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    Default Re: What proof?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHumbleOne View Post
    Salaam,
    Furthermore, the Quran issued a challenge to unbelievers to produce a surah like it (Quran,17:88). Many have tried but failed.

    True. The Infamous Anis Shorrosh tried to make a similar book which is mass produced and distributed by the name "The True Furqan", but it's merely copied phrases from the Qur'an.
    پڑھ پڑھ عالم فاضل ہویا کدے اپنے آپ نوں پڑھیا نہیں
    جا جا وَڑدا مندرمسیتی کدی نفس اپنے وچ وَڑیا ای نہیں

    لڑدا ایں روز شیطان نال کدی نفس اپڑے نال توں لڑیا ای نہیں
    بلھے شاہ اسمانی اُڈدیاں پھَڑدا ایں جہڑا گھر بیٹھا اونوں پھڑیا ای نہیں

    بُھلےؔ شاہؔ


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    Hi Italian Guy,

    here are a set of links [same video in parts] that explains how the Quran was revealed and compiled in a Book; it gives proofs of it's historical authenticity too; specifically see from 4:49 onwards of part 6 to hear of how the vast majority of orientalists agree that the Quran is authentic as in it is the same one now as the one conveyed by Muhammad [saw]; it talks of various ancient manuscripts too of the Quran dating back to the Islamic 1st century?:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYwvgXOU1e4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVWkyReUsac

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1TcgfZ3Cwo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM5NUWWXC_A

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5LaTVnAZac

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LduEJixTSpM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr_XlYEFgFc


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    Default Re: What proof?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amjed View Post
    Hi Italian Guy,

    here are a set of links [same video in parts] that explains how the Quran was revealed and compiled in a Book; it gives proofs of it's historical authenticity too; specifically see from 4:49 onwards of part 6 to hear of how the vast majority of orientalists agree that the Quran is authentic as in it is the same one now as the one conveyed by Muhammad [saw]; it talks of various ancient manuscripts too of the Quran dating back to the Islamic 1st century?:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYwvgXOU1e4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVWkyReUsac

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1TcgfZ3Cwo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM5NUWWXC_A

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5LaTVnAZac

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LduEJixTSpM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr_XlYEFgFc
    Thanl you for these links.
    The Christian dude.


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    Default Re: What proof?

    Since you are Catholic this might just be more of a point of curiosity for you, but this guy really bothered Protestants:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/0...tic/index.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHumbleOne View Post
    Salaam,

    Very true, in fact there was a study by non-Muslims in the last century, an Institute of Munich University in Germany collected 42,000 copies of the Holy Qur'an including manuscripts and printed texts produced in each period in the various parts of the Islamic World. Research work was carried out on these texts for half a century, at the end of which the researchers concluded that apart from copying mistakes, there was no discrepancy in the text of these 42,000 copies, even though they belonged to the period between the 1st Century Hijra to 14th Century Hijra and had been procured from all parts of the world. This Institute, alas! perished in the bombing attacks on Germany during World War II, but the findings of its research project survived.
    Wa alaikumus salaam
    I heard the same.


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    Default Re: What proof?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dhul-Qarnayn View Post
    Since you are Catholic this might just be more of a point of curiosity for you, but this guy really bothered Protestants:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/0...tic/index.html
    Actually I am not a catholic. i am protestant. I was raised Roman Catholic.
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    Default Re: What proof?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dhul-Qarnayn View Post
    Since you are Catholic this might just be more of a point of curiosity for you, but this guy really bothered Protestants:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/0...tic/index.html
    There are plenty out there like him. I love how they always make sure to state that they can recite entire sections of the Bible, as if it gets you into heaven faster. I know plenty of people including myself that have memorized svcripture, the problem is wether they are Christian or Muslim most of the ones who recite mass amounts of scripture can't even understand it. They learn to use it for appologetics or against others whom don't agree with them as a defense tactic. I love those type, they're my favorite. So fun to converse with, get them all worked up and then walk away with a smile on my face knowing I actually have peace in my heart and they spend their entire life memorizing and arguing....sad existance if you ask me. I spend my time glorifying God and seeking more knowledge of Him, not verbaly bashing others for what they believe.

    Have you ever seen the documentary "Religulous"? with Bill Mayer.
    The Christian dude.


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