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    Default Re: Is this a "sunni" forum?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHumbleOne View Post
    Asalaam'alikm dear sister,

    I was a x-IslamQA seeker. However, I found through researching the website that their aqida was actually not in accordance to the Quran & Sunnah (i.e. they give literal meanings that Allah swt has a hand, eyes, and they assign him a location - which are all wrong).

    Please take a look at this post where I referenced IslamQA:

    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...79&postcount=1

    Whatever wrong I have said it is from me and shaitaan alone, whatever good that I've said it is from Allah swt.
    Wa alaikum salam. Do you believe in everything you read?Do bring fort a fatwa from Islam qa that says anything of that sort.
    "...Lo! ye are those who are called to spend in the way of Allah, yet among you there are some who hoard. And as for him who hoardeth, he hoardeth only from his soul. And Allah is the Rich, and ye are the poor.... "



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    Default Re: Is this a "sunni" forum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rasema View Post
    Wa alakium salam

    The issue of being salafi is not one where you can ONLY be a salafi OR be a madhaabi. That is the wrong way to look at it.

    In essnece, when someone say "he follows the salafi way" then that means he restricts himself to the pure ultra orthodox way. for example, we can have two hanbalis here, one is salafi and one is not. The salafi one is the orthodox one whereas the hanbali who is not salafi is he who has opposed the orthodox Islamic way in some shape, form, or fashion on any given issue.
    "pure orthodox way"? Can you explain this.
    Are the teachings of Ibn Taymiyyah in matters of 'aqidah that you refer to as the "pure orthodox way"?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibn_Harith View Post
    "pure orthodox way"? Can you explain this.
    Are the teachings of Ibn Taymiyyah in matters of 'aqidah that you refer to as the "pure orthodox way"?
    Assalmau Alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

    By" Pure Orthodix way" I mean that Salifiyahh is Ahlal sunnah(the pure orthodox way). Salafiyyah(I'm speaking about) follows only the Qur'an and the sunnah(pure?), and rejecting all other opinions when they dont match the Qur'an and the hadeeth.
    In this case, if there is something by Ibn Taymeyyah that doesn't march the Qur'an and the sunna, of course, who ever he is, we reject it. Salafiyyah isn't based on only Ibn Taymeyyah's teachings, so why would you think that our inheritors of the Prophet,saws, would include something wrong into Qur'an and the sunna. Of course they wouldn't, no matter by WHO the wrong ageedah was.

    I am not someone knowledgeable. I do not even speak or read Arabic. I became a practicing Muslim a year ago!!!

    What confuses me is that people accuse ALL Salafis of being extremists. Just look up my thread A Salafi. People who follow Salafism, such as the scholars of Islamic qa site etc.. are accused of crazy things. This thread proves it. When someone is following the Ahlal sunna, we are not innovating here. We are speaking about sticking stricly to the best generation.

    Rasulullah (Peace and blessings be upon him) brought the beliefs of Ahl as-Sunnah. The Sahaba al-kiram (may Allah be pleased with them all) derived these teachings of Iman from the source (the Qur'an and Sunnah). And the Tabi'un (successors), in their turn, learned these teachings from the Sahaba al-kiram. And from them their successors learned, thus the teachings of Ahl as-Sunnah reached us by way of transmission and tawatur (through many undeniable chains of transmission). These teachings cannot be explored by way of reasoning. Intellect cannot change them and will only help understand them. That is, intellect is necessary for understanding them, for realizing that they are right and for knowing their value. All the scholars of Hadith held the beliefs of the Ahl as-Sunnah. The Imams of the four Madhhabs in deeds, too, were in this Madhhab. Also, al-Maturidi and al-Ashari (Allah's mercy be upon them), the two Imam's of our Madhhab in beliefs, were in the Madhhab of the Ahl as-Sunnah. Both of these Imams promulgated this Madhhab. They always defended this Madhhab against heretics and materialists, who had been stuck in the bogs of ancient Greek philosophy. Though they were contemporaries, they lived in different places and the ways of thinking and behaving of the offenders they had met were different, so the methods of defence used and the answers given by these two great scholars of Ahl as-Sunnah were different. But this does not mean that they belonged to different Madhhabs (rather they were both from the Ahl as-Sunnah). Hundreds of thousands of profoundly learned ulama and awliya (friends of Allah) coming after these two exalted Imams studied their books and stated in consensus that they both belonged to the Madhhab of the Ahl as-Sunnah. The scholars of the Ahl as-Sunnah took the nass (Qur'an and Sunnah) with their outward meanings. That is, they gave the ayats and Hadiths their outward meanings, and did not explain away (ta'wil) the nass or change these meanings unless there was a darura (necessity) to do so. And they never made any changes with their personal knowledge or opinions. But those who belonged to heretical groups and the la-Madhhabi (those who do not belong to one of the four Madhhabs) did not hesitate to change the teachings of Iman and Ibadat (worship) as they had learned from (the books of) Greek philosophers and from sham scientists, who were Islam's adversaries."
    http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/ahlsunna.htm
    Last edited by Rasema; 03-11-2009 at 12:51 AM.
    "...Lo! ye are those who are called to spend in the way of Allah, yet among you there are some who hoard. And as for him who hoardeth, he hoardeth only from his soul. And Allah is the Rich, and ye are the poor.... "



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