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    Default Is Dr. Israr Ahmed Still Deviant in Beliefs?

    Question for everyone including followers of Dr. Israr Ahmed.

    Has Dr. Israr Ahmed given up his deviated beliefs in Evolution of mankind from monkeys?

    Hazrat Maulana Yusuf Ludhyaanvi Shaheed RA of Pakistan actually discussed Dr. Israr in detail in his "Aap kay masaael Aur Un Kaa Hal" volume #9.
    He told the Dr. to make taubah from his deviated beliefs in evolution and read kalimah again and re-marry his wife.

    Given above information, does anyone know if Dr. Israr has repented (and re-read the Kalimah) from wrong belief in evolution?

    And repent from wrongly carrying out Tafseer Bir Raey of the Quran?

    (post edited to make Tafseer Bir Raey not an act of Kufr (mostly)).
    Last edited by empz; 29-11-2009 at 10:02 AM.


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    Default Re: Is Dr. Israr Ahmed Still Deviant in Beliefs?

    Quote Originally Posted by empz View Post
    Question for everyone including followers of Dr. Israr Ahmed.

    Has Dr. Israr Ahmed given up his deviated beliefs in Evolution of mankind from monkeys?

    Hazrat Maulana Yusuf Ludhyaanvi Shaheed RA of Pakistan actually discussed Dr. Israr in detail in his "Aap kay masaael Aur Un Kaa Hal" volume #9.
    He told the Dr. to make taubah from his deviated beliefs in evolution and read kalimah again and re-marry his wife.

    Given above information, does anyone know if Dr. Israr has repented (and re-read the Kalimah) from

    1) wrong belief in evolution?
    2) wrongly carrying out Tafseer Bir Raey of the Quran?
    I hear his lectures but this thing is very much new and strange to me that the scholar like Dr. Israr has such beliefs about the evolution of mankind...Brother are you sure that he has such beliefs???


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    Default Re: Is Dr. Israr Ahmed Still Deviant in Beliefs?

    Quote Originally Posted by sky_blue View Post
    I hear his lectures but this thing is very much new and strange to me that the scholar like Dr. Israr has such beliefs about the evolution of mankind...Brother are you sure that he has such beliefs???
    Brother,
    Anyone who has beliefs other than the correct belief is out of the fold of Islam. In Islam according to Quran and Hadeeth our scholars have shown that Allah SWT created Hazrat Adam AS directly without any evolution from clay/mud and put the Rooh/Soul in him. Any belief otherwise is Haraam and most likely to lead to kufr immediately.

    Dr. Israr is known to publicly believe in evolution and Ulemaa Haq have refuted him and his Tafseer Bir Raey/Tafseer with one's own opinion ( which is not allowed in Islam).

    You can find various proofs on the web as well of this wrong opinion by Dr. Israr Ahmed.

    Hazrat Maulana Yusuf Ludhyaanwi Shaheed RA said in his fatwaa that any person having any bay'at connection to him should immediately break it and disassociate himself from such a person.

    Listening to his Tafseer Bir Raey/Tafseer with one's own opinion will lead one astray on many matters of the deen.
    Therefore , please brother avoid him like the plague.

    A good tafseer is English Maariful Quran by Mufti Shafi USmani RA http://www.islamibayanaat.com/EMQ.htm

    http://www.albalagh.net/bookstore/?a...view&item=0815


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    Shaykh nuh ha mim Keller says that to regard man evolving from animals is kufr:

    As for claim that man has evolved from a non-human species, this is unbelief (kufr) no matter if we ascribe the process to Allah or to "nature," because it negates the truth of Adam's special creation that Allah has revealed in the Qur'an. Man is of special origin, attested to not only by revelation, but also by the divine secret within him, the capacity for ma'rifa or knowledge of the Divine that he alone of all things possesses. By his God-given nature, man stands before a door opening onto infinitude that no other creature in the universe can aspire to. Man is something else.

    http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/evolve.htm


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    Did the shaykh said he agreed with the evolution theory (meaning animals evoluting into other animals), OR from apes to humans?


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    Default Re: Is Dr. Israr Ahmed Still Deviant in Beliefs?

    Quote Originally Posted by empz View Post
    Brother,
    Anyone who has beliefs other than the correct belief is out of the fold of Islam. In Islam according to Quran and Hadeeth our scholars have shown that Allah SWT created Hazrat Adam AS directly without any evolution from clay/mud and put the Rooh/Soul in him. Any belief otherwise is Haraam and most likely to lead to kufr immediately.


    You extremely wrong believe….its true Adam Allah Salaam came from many stages including man type monkey this knowledge is in Quran and yes the first bacterial cell on earth is our first ancestor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AffanR View Post
    ….its true Adam Allah Salaam came from many stages including man type monkey this knowledge is in Quran and yes the first bacterial cell on earth is our first ancestor.


    huh?



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    Quote Originally Posted by AffanR View Post
    You extremely wrong believe….its true Adam Allah Salaam came from many stages including man type monkey this knowledge is in Quran and yes the first bacterial cell on earth is our first ancestor.
    Assalam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaat..

    Better ask Allah's repentence for such lousy statements..such is grave shirk if said intently.. Adam (as) was made human by Allah (swt).. Ur science is born out of a feeble human mind which is still way too behind in unravelling the mystries of his creations..and the Quran is the word of the creator which says he made Adam as his master piece and best of creations.
    read the tafsir mariful quran surah at-tin:95:1-8: pg 825.

    wa assalam..


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    By the way do you believe what Qur'an says or do you believe in the theory of evolution?

    Even some leading anthropologists do not accept this theory, so how can a 'muslim' doubt Allah's words?


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