Dealing with our opponents with proper adab

[Abu.Aliyah]

A very beneficial thread and great words of wisdom.

[Jawad_ Khan]

A very beneficial and timely thread.....

I just recently heard a wonderful saying from Hazrat Mufti Rafi Usmani Sahab Db.

would try to explain it in my words.

Hazrat said that "dont even discuss these matters when you are fully aware of the truth. Focus on yourself. Avoid such debates. Remember! when an alim debates, he debates for the purpose of islah. Even then, if his debate continues even after the objective of the debate has been achieved, then that becomes a fitnah for himself. It wont hurt the opponent, but it would certainly destroy himself"


Reading the marvelous "Aadaab e Ikhtilaaf(the manners of disagreement)" by Hazrat Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi R.A would be extremely beneficial in this regard.

Plz be clear, here's not supportng the Ehle Baatil, but just emphasizing on the need to avoid needless debates which have no real purpose of islah. Baatil will remain Baatil.



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[Alhaqq]

i wish our scholars would also deal with their opponent scholars with adab. and not publish incorrect and false info. to divide community.

[Abu.Aliyah]

"When someone criticizes or disagrees with you, a small ant of hatred and antagonism is born in your heart. If you do not squash that ant at once, it might grow into a snake, or even a dragon."
(Mathnavi - Mawlana Jalaluddin al-Rumi rahmatullah alayhi)

[Alhaqq]

A very beneficial thread and great words of wisdom.

I am so confused by debates and sutble undermining of one fiqh by another that I am lost!
A class mate of mine became muslim years ago at Lane tech school in Chicago. He was then grabbed by Turkish naqshbandis. Then, aa year later he was spending time with Hizbut tahreer and called sufis and tableghis kuffar. Then he was seen with MSA at loyola where he did his MA but went back to Christianity. I stopped seeing him after his conversion when i found him stuck in fiqh war. I met him years later when he told me all the arguments he heard and was part of between Deabandis, brailwees, tableeghis etc.

My question: I hear scholars talk about fiqh differences that they are nothing and we are one. then i hear scholars and read their books how they put down others.....where do young muslims go?

anyone?

[Rahmaniyyah]

I am so confused by debates and sutble undermining of one fiqh by another that I am lost!
A class mate of mine became muslim years ago at Lane tech school in Chicago. He was then grabbed by Turkish naqshbandis. Then, aa year later he was spending time with Hizbut tahreer and called sufis and tableghis kuffar. Then he was seen with MSA at loyola where he did his MA but went back to Christianity. I stopped seeing him after his conversion when i found him stuck in fiqh war. I met him years later when he told me all the arguments he heard and was part of between Deabandis, brailwees, tableeghis etc.

My question: I hear scholars talk about fiqh differences that they are nothing and we are one. then i hear scholars and read their books how they put down others.....where do young muslims go?

anyone?

The differences will exist by necessity, there is much wisdom and mercy in them. The test is to unite despite the differences. I recall an incident in which Rasulullah forbade the slaying of a munafiq (hypocrite), the worst category of human creation possible, because it would appear that Muslims were fighting internally..

Young Muslims should take in the different views slowly with good manners, without becoming fanatic emotional supporters of every group they bump into. They should largely reserve judgement and observe until they are well aware of different opinions. Allah has given us intellect and a fitrah (nature) to distinguish between truth and falsehood. Every muslim should refrain from any form of "group mentality" - it is not about groups but about the objective truth. After all of this, there must remain differences and as I said this is where the test is.

['Abdullaah]

My question: I hear scholars talk about fiqh differences that they are nothing and we are one. then i hear scholars and read their books how they put down others.....where do young muslims go?

anyone?

I wonder the same.
There are too many double standards.

[The Fake Shaykh]

Ibrahim ibn Abdur-Rahmaan al-Azri (Radhiallaahu Anhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, 'Straight and upright people will seek their knowledge (of Deen) from their pious predecessors. They (straight and upright people) will remove from knowledge, the distortion of the extremists, incorrect attribution of the false people, and incorrect interpretation of the ignorant ones.' (Mishkaat pg.36; Qadeemi)

In view of the above mentioned Hadith, it is the responsibility of the Ulama to preserve the pristine purity of Islam. The Arabic word used to describe that responsibility is 'yanfoon', which is derived from the Arabic root word of 'nafyun' which means to remove.

The practice of pointing out and removing faults is called criticism.

[The Fake Shaykh]

Hafiz ibn Hajar (RA) in his famous work, 'Nukhbatul Fikr Fee Mustalahi ahlil Asr' under the chapter of Jarah (criticism), outlines the rules and principles of criticism, which are extensively applied in determining the authority of a Hadith.

The Muhadditheen have criticized many narrators with the sole purpose of determining the authenticity of the Ahaadith. Criticizing them is certainly ethical in Islam and only conducive to preserving the pristine purity of Islam.

What if the Muhadditheen did not make Jarah of every narrator and criticize many who did not fulfill the criteria of being Aadil? What if every person goes against the directives of the Qur'aan and Hadith and criticize the Sahaaba (Radhiallaahu Anhum)? What will be left of Islam?