Is there a difference between zionism and judaism? Is there a difference between a zionist and a jew? Are all Jews Zionist, hence, we should not like them?

Is there a difference between zionism and judaism? Is there a difference between a zionist and a jew? Are all Jews Zionist, hence, we should not like them?

Salaam alaikum,
There definitely is a difference between Judaism and Zionism. Judaism is a religion; it is strictly monotheistic (they believe in ALLAH alone, Who had no partners), they consider Moses (as) the greatest prophet, and their holy book is the Torah. Zionism is a political movement that believes that the land of Israel/Palestine should be a Jewish state. There are plenty of people that follow Judaism but are not Zionist; there are lots of Jews that very publicly call for Palestinian rights and freedoms, and there are even entire sects of Judaism (for example, the Satmars, a branch of ultra-Orthodox Judaism) that don't support the State of Israel and call for the return of the land to Palestinians. There are also plenty of Zionists that are not Jewish (for example, there are quite a few evangelical Christians that are strong supporters of Israel). Therefore, one cannot assume that because one is Jewish that they are also Zionist, or because they are Zionist that they are Jewish.
Hope this helps clarify, Insha'Allah.
Salam alikum sister,
useful explanation, thank you.
I was also thinking in a way call for Jewish state could have positive influence also for call for islamic state .... from perspective to oppose atheist, it is call for religious state.... poor christians they have given up very quickly - lost themself in cloud of western liberalism...

Well, I'm sort of both, so let me see if I can answer this. You don't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist and you don't have to be a Zionist to be a Jew. Sushilover is almost 100% correct. Now the degree to which Israel should be a Jewish state is more of a complex debate among Jews (and among Israelis). The government remains mostly secular and there's representation from non-Jews in the legislature (Knesset). The most important tenet of Zionism is espoused in the Israeli national anthem, Hatkivah - "to be a free people in our own land." And technically, in order to be a Zionist - you should live in the area of ancient Israel. If you support Israel and don't live there, technically, you're not a Zionist, but a pro-Zionist. Note that this does not necessarily mean anything bad for Muslims or Christians.
As for whom you should like or dislike, I cannot answer that. I wish you would like or dislike people based on what is in their heart - not on the labels they or other people put on them. Some people say "Zionist" and mean it like an insult. Some people say "Muslim" or "Jew" and mean it like an insult. I try not to judge people until I can see things from their perspective.
I hope we can all speak to each other like humans first, whether in Dar al Islam or in Dar el Amn.

many orthodox conservative haredi jews opposed zionism...
zionism is just like Modernism in Islam.....almost same concept
the core is Liberalism, secularism etc
look how the zionist allowed Homos to parade in their land, and pissing of the conservative Jews...

There are many Jews who are actually Jews that practice their religion, not just Jewish by name who actually even support the fact that our profit Mohamad saws was spoken about in their jewish texts as the final or last profit.
There are many Zionist Jews who do not practice the Jewish religion & hide under the jewish religion in public, but practice the satanic religion in cults.. Oprah Winfrey had a special on it with children who ran away from these so called Jewish families.
Many Zionist leaders believe in the 'noble lie' and are kind of machiavellian, many neo-conservertives involved in American politics are Zionists and very influential. The man who coined the phrase Axis of Evil in one of the Bush speeches was a Zionist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_lie
Interesting that sakenraz compares Zionism to Islamic modernists like the Ikhwani Muslimeen, I think this is accurate. The Muslim modernists have also been influenced heavily by Fascism see:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m.../ai_n24944818/

Neturei Karta moved out of Jerusalem one year after the formation of Israel as they believed the zionist israel is not the promised Israel state (which would be setup by the messiah). Their chief at the time was the second highest rabbi in Jerusalem. Jews were not allowed to have their own state/country until the coming of the messiah. Zionist movements proclaimed that what they are doing right now is preparing the state for the coming of the messiah, but what happen on the ground is just a bunch of businessmen taking advantage of the religious sentiments by selling real estate properties and all (from the land grabbing) above market price in israel (refer to some demonstration in tel aviv a few months back). Not to mention that those real property projects are subsidized by the US and israel government in the first place.
www.nkusa.org
I think they are among one of the more visible Orthodox Jews organizations that openly opposed to the zionism.
Allah Knows Best.
Last edited by faizol; 26-05-2012 at 01:49 PM.
لا إله إلا الله
محمد رسول الله

Assalamu alaikum brother.
Please elaborate on the ottomans & the zionists.
I know nothing of this and would like to know more.
Last edited by Melbourne; 28-05-2012 at 11:53 AM.

Judaism = a religion of the Book.
Zionism = a racist Jewish nationalist ideology that was originally opposed by Orthodox Jewish scholars.
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Judaism is very definitely not the same as Zionism, but most Jews today are either fanatical or more moderate Zionists.
The interesting thing is that someone is a Jew based on their mother being a Jew - they don't even have to believe in God to be called a Jew.
Most of the Israeli population and their international supporters believe in their race only and have largely rejected God, they are more inclined to vague notions and Freemasonry than any real religious belief. This being why the Zionist colony that calls itself "Israel" is full of disco-bars, nudity and free sex and why sex mad Hollywood is full of 'Jewish' Zionists.
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