Do i have to have a madhab? what about those that differ inside of their own madhabs?

[tariqa]

As

As i was on another thread
a brother said something about one madhabs way of thinking

however, what he did not account for was the fact that two scholars in one madhab may also have two different opinions regarding something very very similar


so....what is this? are they still apart of the same madhab if they disagree with something small?


also
can we just be muslims..do we have to state which madhab we belong to
if there is only one correct madhab, then isnt being a muslim enough to tell you what madhab you are ,or do we tell so that others can note what we are right away?

AS

[abuhajira]

These questions have also been dealt in much detail before. Please use the search facility.

Madhab is not recognized by the rulings of the scholars in it, rather by the Usools used to derive those rulings. As for the rulings, there will be an relied upon opinion within the madhab most cases. Where there is a difference of the relied upon opinion the may be a scope of your discussion, but that maybe about 1-3% of the madhab itself, or even in then there may be other usools which govern the giving of fatwa.

The truth is within the 4 madhahib. We cannot say for certainty which is correct in sight of Allah, however Hanafi believ that their ruling is correct with a possibility that it is not so, while other madhahib are wrong with the possibility that they are correct. So in that sense ALL 4 madhahib are correct, since their Usools are correct.

The 5th school however is not correct by all means.. thats the school of nafs. which hops on from one point to another based on the deficient knowledge the nafs has at that particular time. The same nafs which will deem A to be permissible will read 20 pages on internet and start to call A impermissible... a year or so down the road.. the same Nafs will read some other book and revert back to his old view.. This school is wrong.

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[saqfu]

u ask if u need a madhab?. first of all u have to understand where fiqh come from. the quran states the the prophets pbu them all have 4 obligations.
1. read out the revaleations
2.tazkya
3.knowledge
4.wisdom

from the 1st obligation comes qirat, from the 2nd obligation tazkya comes sufism and from the the 3rd and 4th obligation comes fiqh. so u c fiqh is an aspect of prophets pbu them all. therefore without a madhab ur iman would not be complete and u would be at a loss.

[tariqa]

These questions have also been dealt in much detail before. Please use the search facility.

Madhab is not recognized by the rulings of the scholars in it, rather by the Usools used to derive those rulings. As for the rulings, there will be an relied upon opinion within the madhab most cases. Where there is a difference of the relied upon opinion the may be a scope of your discussion, but that maybe about 1-3% of the madhab itself, or even in then there may be other usools which govern the giving of fatwa.

The truth is within the 4 madhahib. We cannot say for certainty which is correct in sight of Allah, however Hanafi believ that their ruling is correct with a possibility that it is not so, while other madhahib are wrong with the possibility that they are correct. So in that sense ALL 4 madhahib are correct, since their Usools are correct.

The 5th school however is not correct by all means.. thats the school of nafs. which hops on from one point to another based on the deficient knowledge the nafs has at that particular time. The same nafs which will deem A to be permissible will read 20 pages on internet and start to call A impermissible... a year or so down the road.. the same Nafs will read some other book and revert back to his old view.. This school is wrong.

so your saying that some scholars of the hanafi madhab can disagree about issues using the same usools?
how can two scholars using the same usools disagree?


and do i have to say i belong to one specific madhab ?

[tariqa]

u ask if u need a madhab?. first of all u have to understand where fiqh come from. the quran states the the prophets pbu them all have 4 obligations.
1. read out the revaleations
2.tazkya
3.knowledge
4.wisdom

from the 1st obligation comes qirat, from the 2nd obligation tazkya comes sufism and from the the 3rd and 4th obligation comes fiqh. so u c fiqh is an aspect of prophets pbu them all. therefore without a madhab ur iman would not be complete and u would be at a loss.

excuse me brother but perhaps you misinterpreted my question as i did not ask this


what i did indeed ask was if it was necessary to state that i belong to one specific madhab...

[abuhajira]

so your saying that some scholars of the hanafi madhab can disagree about issues using the same usools?
how can two scholars using the same usools disagree?


and do i have to say i belong to one specific madhab ?

A.
why can they not disagree? Usools are guidelines.. eg.. If usool say If causative factor A is found then,Ruling B will take place, otherwise ruling C. Now if the two Hanafi Mujtahideen differ in the understanding of that "causative factor" in its complete definition.. one may say that it is found, another may say it is not found. Hence they will have two different opinions. However this will be case among the mujtahideen ( not so much in the later day Hanafi fuqaha). Which is why hanafiya as a madhab is structured in a way to make tarjeeh in these differences. They are another level of mujtahideen.. over the time, with constant revision much of hanafiya has now become codified. There still remain some issues where discretion of the later day mufti is required which will cause difference in ruling.

a practical examples : Usool says that when a mubah(mere permissible) becomes so significant among the laymen or even the ulama, that they start to deem is something more than mubah, then the fatwa should be given of impressibility to save the common interest of peopl.

Now in a particular situation, two mufties sit. First say that laymen are giving undue important to such and such mubah practice, hence I give fatwa of its impressibility. Second Mufti say that in his view the laymen are not giving undue importance hence we should allow people to do the practice... Both have their own dalail to show whether people give the act undue importance or not.. HENCE they will differ in their ruling, while using the same usools.

B.
Yes you should say what madhab you are, so there is no confusion inminds of people. When you join the forum, you are asked to put the information with complete clarity and honesty. That is the rule of declaration anywhere you represent yourself. This has much positive effect in proper interaction.Besides, if you do ascribe to one madhab and you show "dont know" on the panel on the left.. that is ethically and morally incorrect to say the least.

[Nancy]

what is a madhab?

[tariqa]

A.
why can they not disagree? Usools are guidelines.. eg.. If usool say If causative factor A is found then,Ruling B will take place, otherwise ruling C. Now if the two Hanafi Mujtahideen differ in the understanding of that "causative factor" in its complete definition.. one may say that it is found, another may say it is not found. Hence they will have two different opinions. However this will be case among the mujtahideen ( not so much in the later day Hanafi fuqaha). Which is why hanafiya as a madhab is structured in a way to make tarjeeh in these differences. They are another level of mujtahideen.. over the time, with constant revision much of hanafiya has now become codified. There still remain some issues where discretion of the later day mufti is required which will cause difference in ruling.

a practical examples : Usool says that when a mubah(mere permissible) becomes so significant among the laymen or even the ulama, that they start to deem is something more than mubah, then the fatwa should be given of impressibility to save the common interest of peopl.

Now in a particular situation, two mufties sit. First say that laymen are giving undue important to such and such mubah practice, hence I give fatwa of its impressibility. Second Mufti say that in his view the laymen are not giving undue importance hence we should allow people to do the practice... Both have their own dalail to show whether people give the act undue importance or not.. HENCE they will differ in their ruling, while using the same usools.

B.
Yes you should say what madhab you are, so there is no confusion inminds of people. When you join the forum, you are asked to put the information with complete clarity and honesty. That is the rule of declaration anywhere you represent yourself. This has much positive effect in proper interaction.Besides, if you do ascribe to one madhab and you show "dont know" on the panel on the left.. that is ethically and morally incorrect to say the least.

what if i do not know which madhab i belong to?
if i take some from each madhab or take what i feel is correct from wherever it is correct at, then do i really have one specific madhab?
and just because i say im a hanafi, and im not a complete hanafi because there are some maliki opinions that seem correct, then wouldnt that be lying?

what is wrong with the site islamqa com? are they hanafis or salafis..perhaps i like their madhabs more..