Banning shia's from Hajj

[SOA7007]

Salaam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

as from the following thread it is proven what we sunnis believe about the shia

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...wafid-Twelvers

why do we allow these heretics to perform the hajj ?

i have heard that these shia's even swear at the grave of Abu Bakr Siddique r.a and Umar Farooq r.a

i watched a video on youtube where some yrs ago the shia's tried to take over the harmain shareef but the saudi police drived them out.

shoudnt we bann these heretics from coming there who knowsthey can be very dangerous in future.

why do we allow these heretics to perform the hajj ?


Forgive Your Enemies but remember their names

[Colonel_Hardstone]

Salaam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

as from the following thread it is proven what we sunnis believe about the shia

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...wafid-Twelvers

why do we allow these heretics to perform the hajj ?

i have heard that these shia's even swear at the grave of Abu Bakr Siddique r.a and Umar Farooq r.a

i watched a video on youtube where some yrs ago the shia's tried to take over the harmain shareef but the saudi police drived them out.

shoudnt we bann these heretics from coming there who knowsthey can be very dangerous in future.

why do we allow these heretics to perform the hajj ?


Forgive Your Enemies but remember their names

My Boss in Saudia was a Durooz and he had a Green Iqamah (meaning classed as Muslim) by Saloolee Government and there is no doubt about their Kufr.

Durooz were classed as Non-Muslims and not permitted to do Hajj because they are so powerful and control so much wealth in the Middle-East Saloolee Government reclassified them as Muslims...

Point is that if Durooz can be classified as Muslims, Rafidhees are way down the pecking order...

[SOA7007]

Durooz ???????????????

Saloolee Governemnt ??????????????????


never heard these terms , aaah me better increase my general awareness knowledge

[bugmenot]

i watched a video on youtube where some yrs ago the shia's tried to take over the harmain shareef but the saudi police drived them out.

I think you're talking about the Grand Mosque Seizure which I think the government tried to pass as a shia takeover.

As for shi'as & hajj, I think scholars differed as to if the laymen shi'a were kaafir or not, as opposite to their scholars...

[caravan of martyrs]

i dont think shis where the one took over the haram for a few days. infact they were very good brothers who wanted FULL shariah law not half baked sharah to suit the whims and desires of the as saud family. as for banning shias i heard its because alot of major business and rich men in the arab world including saudi are shia thus ahve alot of influence. also iran will destroy saudi if they banned shias.

[IlyasLahoz]

Have the Shia ever been banned from hajj?

[Abu Dajanaa]

Durooz ???????????????

Saloolee Governemnt ??????????????????


never heard these terms , aaah me better increase my general awareness knowledge

is br hardstone referring to abdullah ibn ubay ibn salul?

[umar_italy]

Durooz ???????????????

I think it's Druzes?

Have the Shia ever been banned from hajj?

That's a good question I've always asked myself. But let's don't forget taqiyyah: without documents and papers they may have gone Hajj posing as "sunnis"..

[Reckoning]

I wish somebody with some historical expertise would answer this, but in my memory I have never read any Caliph prevent the Shiaa from performing Hajj. So I think it's late to do it now. If I had to guess why, it is because you dont make blanket statements when it comes to the laymen. The scholar carry a specific responsibility for the misguidence that they help spread. There is no way of knowing what is in the heart of the laymen. Seeing and being around other Muslim in Makkah and Medina may also serve purpose of correcting and opening the eyes of a laymen Shiaa who may not know better than what they were born into.

Allah knows best

[caravan of martyrs]

they were banned in late 70s or early 80s which lead to shias blowing up cars and causing mayhem. i think it hit the saudi economy so they let them back in or so i been informed