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    Fatwa: Tanveer-ul-hujjah layma(n)yy yajjuzul-iltawa-ul hajjah

    Hajj is the pilgrimage to Mecca, at least once in a lifetime on certain special dates and it is obligatory upon every Muslim male and female who is mentally, physically and financially fit. It is one of the five obligatory practices/faraiz of Islam. What follows is an introduction of Hajj from Quran and Hadith and then excerpts from the famous verdict of Baraelwi scholars. Introduction: Allah swt says; "In it are signs manifest; (for example) the Station of Abraham; whoever enters it attains security; Hajj/pilgrimage thereto is a duty men owe to Allah those who can afford the journey; but if any deny faith Allah stands not in need of any of his creatures." [1]
    And Allah's Apostle sallallaho alehey wasalm said: Islam is based on (the following) five (principles):
    1. To testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is Allah's Apostle.
    2. To offer the (compulsory congregational) prayers dutifully and perfectly.
    3. To pay Zakat (i.e. obligatory charity) .
    4. To perform Hajj (i.e. Pilgrimage to Mecca).
    5. To observe fast during the month of Ramadan. [2]

    One day we were sitting in the company of Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) when there appeared before us a man dressed in pure white clothes, his hair extraordinarily black. There were no signs of travel on him. None amongst us recognized him. At last he sat with the Apostle (peace be upon him) He knelt before him placed his palms on his thighs and said: Muhammad, inform me about al-Islam. The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: Al-Islam implies that you testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and you establish prayer, pay Zakat, observe the fast of Ramadan, and perform hajj/pilgrimage to the (House) if you are solvent enough (to bear the expense of) the journey. [3]

    I said to Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him): Inform me about an act which would entitle me to get into Paradise, and remove me away from Hell-Fire. He (the Prophet) said: You have asked me about a matter (which ostensibly appears to be) difficult but it is easy to those for whom Allah, the Exalted, has made it easy. Worship Allah and do not associate anything with him, establish prayer, pay the Zakat, observe the fast of Ramadan and perform Hajj to the (sacred) House (Ka'bah) [4]

    The verdict Tanveer-ul-hujjah layma(n)yy yajjuz-ul-iltawa-ul hajjah, Luminous justification on permissibility of postponement of Hajj By Moulana Mustafa Raza Khan Baraelwi son of Moulana Ahmed Raza Khan Baraelwi

    Endorsed by almost forty Baraelwi scholars, including Moulana Hashmat Ali Qadiri, Moulana Hammid Raza Baaelwi, Moulana Naeem udden Muradabadi, and Moulana Sayyid Dildar Ali.

    "The filthy Ibn-e-Saud and his associates considers all Muslims kaffir/apostate and mushrik and holds the view that their belongings are lawful (to be seized). Due to their this belief the obligation of Hajj stands necessarily void and nil. [5]

    (So) O Muslims! These days Hajj is not obligatory for you and it permissible to postpone it (for a later date). And this is quite evident to all Muslims and they believe from the depth of the hearts that it is an obligation to expel this Najdi (aleh ma aleh) by whatever means possible. And this is also obvious to all intelligent people that if people do not go for Hajj, he will be dazed (meaning ruined/broke). (And) najidis will suffer great (monetary) loss and they will become unstable. What other options do you have (to oust them)? This is the only technique (and) inshaAllah it will be productive." [6]

    Moreover, addressing those who are still performing the obligation of Hajj, it says:

    "Allah swt will inquire: when Hajj was not obligatory on you, why did you go there (for Hajj) to foster My and My beloved ones' enemy, (in defiance of) the permissibility of procrastinating and postponing it (Hajj). And this ruling of Ours was conveyed to you by Our humble subject and your servant Mustafa Raza. However, even then you did not conform and by spending your wealth you strengthened the vile hold of My and My beloved sallal laho alehey wasalam's enemies on the Holy cities." [7]

    Footnotes
    1 al-Quran; Surah Al-i'Imran, ayah 97. Yusuf Ali's English translation.
    2 Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith, Hadith 1.7. Narrated by Ibn Umar ra
    3 Sahih Muslim. Hadith 1 partial.Narrated by Abdullah ibn Umar ibn al-Khattab ra. Also known as hadith-e-Jibrael as.
    4 Al-Tirmidhi. Hadith 29 partial. Narrated byMu'adh ibn Jabal ra
    5 Tanveer-ul-hujjah laymayy yajjuz-il-iltawa-ul hajjah, pgs 10
    6 Tanveer-ul-hujjah laymayy yajjuz-il-iltawa-ul hajjah, pgs 24
    7 Tanveer-ul-hujjah laymayy yajjuz-il-iltawa-ul hajjah, pgs 25. Published in Baraely."


    from the excellent website exposing barelwi deviancies
    http://web.archive.org/web/200502112...af.tripod.com/


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    So no prayers in Haram of Makkah or Madinah in Jamaah for Barelwis which is against what is mentioned in the books of creed see taftanzani or nafasi, praying behind faajir.

    and Now we have no Hajj because salafis control Makkah and Madinah...

    Quick question: Since barelwis claim Qutbs control the world from the graves, why is it taking so much time for these Qutb al Aqtabs to remove wahabis and salafis from holy lands ? why can't these Qutbs just order a regime change in the Holy Lands , so they can perform hajj and salah ? it has been more than 100 years now and still nothing so far.


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    Default Re: Barelvi fatwa: first no prayer and now No Hajj behind Salafis ?

    i know of no-one that takes these people seriously major ulema have deemed this people to be incorrect and many of the orthodox scholars have deemed their ways filled with shirk


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    Default Re: Barelvi fatwa: first no prayer and now No Hajj behind Salafis ?

    they have strange ulama, with lofty titles like,

    sher-e-ahl sunnah = lion of ahl sunnah

    Muffakir -e- islam = thinker or philosopher of Islam Pir Abdul Qadir Jilani who is in reality MUKAFFIR e Islam

    Ghazali e waqt

    bukhari e zaman

    hujjat ul islam

    shaykh al islam mufti e alam

    Muhadith e kaabir or Muhadith e Azam

    These so called ulama have hard time speaking arabic but very happy with these lofty titles. they can hardly understand or make out the conversation if two people are speaking arabic in front of them....


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    Default Re: Barelvi fatwa: first no prayer and now No Hajj behind Salafis ?

    Quote Originally Posted by abul_hussain View Post
    they have strange ulama, with lofty titles like,

    sher-e-ahl sunnah = lion of ahl sunnah

    Muffakir -e- islam = thinker or philosopher of Islam Pir Abdul Qadir Jilani who is in reality MUKAFFIR e Islam


    Ghazali e waqt

    bukhari e zaman

    hujjat ul islam

    shaykh al islam mufti e alam

    Muhadith e kaabir or Muhadith e Azam

    These so called ulama have hard time speaking arabic but very happy with these lofty titles. they can hardly understand or make out the conversation if two people are speaking arabic in front of them....
    a deobandi alim from uk really needs to handle this guy up he causes alot of fitnah. he is a takfiri brealwi 'scholar' he once told his congration who between them have about 4 brain cells and even then 1 of them is on the blink that on yawm qiyaamah if Allah (swt) is going to send you to hell not to worry as he will grab them and scoop them out of hell. the best part of this story was then all his sheeps followers shouted out SUBHANALLAH


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    Default Re: Barelvi fatwa: first no prayer and now No Hajj behind Salafis ?

    are you referring to Pir Abdal Qadir Jilani of Walthamstow.

    Have you ever heard this guy speaking ? checkout youtube or his website. Do you seriously think he needs to be addressed. He is entertainer brother, not a scholar.


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    Default Re: Barelvi fatwa: first no prayer and now No Hajj behind Salafis ?

    yep thats the one. i know he aint a scholar but the way his worshippers adore him is frightening. they really thing he is some kind of super saint. apparently he can hold a peice of cloth of any person and know what their ilness is. on youtube he has a video ' which silsila is most afzal' in which he states why qadriya is the best. yes you have probably guessed it, many many years ago when the prophet (saw) was on meeraj and reached sidra tul muntaa he could not process any further. then came abdul qadir jilani (ra) and offered rasoolullah (saw) a boost up. i cant beleive these idiots fall for fairtales like these


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    Default Re: Barelvi fatwa: first no prayer and now No Hajj behind Salafis ?

    May Allah curse the barelwi who r the Ahl Al-Biddah and may His blessings be upon those who follow the Quran and Sunnah


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    Default Re: Barelvi fatwa: first no prayer and now No Hajj behind Salafis ?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrghazi411 View Post
    May Allah curse the barelwi who r the Ahl Al-Biddah and may His blessings be upon those who follow the Quran and Sunnah
    Ahl Sunnah wal Jamaah don't send lanat // curse on their fellow muslim brothers/sisters.

    The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said that cursing a muslim is Fisq and killing a muslim is kufr and "When any body curses on any thing then the curse first raises to the sky that time the sky-doors get closed. Then that (Curse) comes down to the earth that time ways to the earth get closed. Then that (Curse) roam around right & left but when it does not get ways. Then it goes to the person to whom it is cursed if he (whom it has been cursed) really deserves otherwise the curse returns back to the curser." [ Sunan Abu Dawood ]

    Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr: "The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam never used bad language neither a 'Fahish nor a Mutafahish. He sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said 'The best amongst you are those who have the best manners and character.'

    We pray for the guidance of our Barelwi brothers and ourselves.


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    Default Re: Barelvi fatwa: first no prayer and now No Hajj behind Salafis ?

    Asalamwaliakum brother Abul Hassan, by Allah you are right. May Allah forgive me and the rest of the ummah, may Allah guide the misguided to the correct path


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    Default Re: Barelvi fatwa: first no prayer and now No Hajj behind Salafis ?

    Even when the kuffar Quresh controlled Mecca, Hajj was done. This fatwa makes no sense.


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