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    Default More than a 'fatwa' against Terrorism!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE6Di3ePQ0A

    He says some astonishing things! Particularly from 2:40...

    P.s. I couldn't find the other thread about this? Seems to have vanished?


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    Default Re: More than a 'fatwa' against Terrorism!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ibn Badr View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE6Di3ePQ0A

    He says some astonishing things! Particularly from 2:40...

    P.s. I couldn't find the other thread about this? Seems to have vanished?
    salam

    absolutely right , what a great man !

    these are the ahl-sunnah we love and cherish , masha'allah



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    Default Re: More than a 'fatwa' against Terrorism!

    so this guy TUQ is saying man made laws (democracy) are more superior to the laws of Allah and that we do not need to establish the shariah and khilafat?


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    Quote Originally Posted by xs11ax View Post
    so this guy TUQ is saying man made laws (democracy) are more superior to the laws of Allah and that we do not need to establish the shariah and khilafat?


    I wouldn't take any notice of him and his opinions brother. He's insignificant and this is merely his last stand.


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    Default Re: More than a 'fatwa' against Terrorism!

    salaam marco,

    when TUQ quotes, "he has rejected one ayat of quran, he has rejected whole of quran," hasn't he just made takfeer on himself as he himself rejects the commandments of the quran to establish the shariah and to rule by the laws of Allah


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    Quote Originally Posted by xs11ax View Post
    salaam marco,

    when TUQ quotes, "he has rejected one ayat of quran, he has rejected whole of quran," hasn't he just made takfeer on himself as he himself rejects the commandments of the quran to establish the shariah and to rule by the laws of Allah
    brother,
    I wouldn't comment as I'm not a scholar brother, and seeing as he lacks any credentials anyway, I'll just choose to ignore what he says. I'd let Allah SWT take care of him if his intentions are to cause fitnah.


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    Default Re: More than a 'fatwa' against Terrorism!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutazili View Post
    otherwise what did tahir qadri say that is so "repulsive" ??
    he said follow a man made system of democracy, as opposed to the command of Allah to follow and establish the shariah.

    maybe you missed that bit. watch the video again.

    and when you read between the lines of his false statement to follow democracy and not to establish the shariah and to celebrate christmas then it comes down to one thing; he is trying to please the kuffar and gain their support.


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    Default Re: More than a 'fatwa' against Terrorism!

    Assalamualaikum

    wouldn't comment as I'm not a scholar brother, and seeing as he lacks any credentials anyway
    brother Marco100 why do you say Tahir ul Qadri lacks credentials, what do you mean by credentials. If you mean the scholars that he has studied from then i think you know as well he has studied with some of the best traditional scholars of Shaam etc.


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    Default Re: More than a 'fatwa' against Terrorism!

    Quote Originally Posted by xs11ax View Post
    he said follow a man made system of democracy, as opposed to the command of Allah to follow and establish the shariah.

    maybe you missed that bit. watch the video again.

    and when you read between the lines of his false statement to follow democracy and not to establish the shariah and to celebrate christmas then it comes down to one thing; he is trying to please the kuffar and gain their support.

    i haven't watched the whole fatwa < the parts i have watched are about respect for life and its sanctity and about democratie being an islamic value before the west applied it , as rasool allah put the first constitution in history in madinah as he said.

    if he said we must celebrate chrismas and if he's pleasing others at the expense of islam then yes he's absolutely out of line but i didn't see proof of this yet , i might watch the whole video later


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    Default Re: More than a 'fatwa' against Terrorism!

    Subhallah! He says that after reading numerous books, after writing 100 books on hadith and 100 on tafseer etc., he has never come across a single statement in the Qur'an or Sunnah that requires the Muslims to appoint only one Khalifah. I don't see how anyone heralded as 'shaykh ul-Islam' can say something like that, given that:

    1. A rule does not have to be explicitly statement in the 'The case is such-and-such' form in the Qur'an or Sunnah for it to be the case; and

    2. There is all but an ijma' on this matter. In fact some of the scholars, like al-Nawawi and al-Jaza'iri have stated that there is ijma'!


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