پڑھ پڑھ عالم فاضل ہویا کدے اپنے آپ نوں پڑھیا نہیں
جا جا وَڑدا مندرمسیتی کدی نفس اپنے وچ وَڑیا ای نہیں
لڑدا ایں روز شیطان نال کدی نفس اپڑے نال توں لڑیا ای نہیں
بلھے شاہ اسمانی اُڈدیاں پھَڑدا ایں جہڑا گھر بیٹھا اونوں پھڑیا ای نہیں
بُھلےؔ شاہؔ

Doesnt make sense to us because we havent studied the depth of the matter, you are not going to understand these issues unless you understand usool of their schools and how they derive their rulings and all that - its all a big complex thingy man, either you study it to its core depth or you just leave it to ulama and follow what they say. Following ulama is the easy way out; you come across an issue, you pick up phone and ask scholar he tells you what to do, you do it and case closed you go back to enjoying life.
Someone should write this logo on t-shirt: Life is short, make taqleed.
Most generous of mankind, I have no one to take refuge in,
Except you at the occurrence of widespread calamity.

The problem here is simple, when people talk about all opinions being 100% correct, they're referring to the validity (i.e. it is 100% valid to follow them) whilst you are talking about what is haq according to Allah.
Since youve been studying Hanafi fiqh, you'll sure know the status of Imam Muhammad ibn al-Hasan al-Shaybani. Well in the book Fiqh al-Imam, Imam Muhammad is quoted from his work Bulugh al-Ma'ani explaining the matter. It's a very long quote, here's some part of it:
Ibn Abi' l-Awam narrated from Imam Tahawi and Sulayman ibn Shu'ayb that Shu'ayb al-Kasani said, "Imam Muhmmad dictated to us that whenever people are in conflict with one another regarding a particular issue - and the situation is such that both jurists possess the competence to undertake ijtihad - even then, the opinion which is the truth according to Allah is still one...It is not correct for a person to conclude from two conflicting opinions that both can be the truth [haq] according to Allah...
He then goes on to explain how both are valid cos of the fulfilment of ijtihad. The quote is much, much longer, i just quoted this cos it deals with the issue at hand.
This stance is also that of the Ulama of Deoband according to a quote of Imam Anwar Shah al-Kashmirii remember reading...
And Allahknows best.
Last edited by a_muslim; 13-09-2011 at 08:52 PM.

yup...Life is short...
A question, should we join our hands after ruku or leave our hands after? I know, It is stated by Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal (R.H) but I want to make my mind clear.
Is it stated in hadees joining hands after ruku or leaving hands after ruku.
If it is, so show me a hadees.

Bismillahi Al-Rahmani Al-Rahim
The Hands After Ruku`
Q
Can you please post some proof of why one should or should not place the right hand on the left forearm when standing up from rukoo. I have read that some of the Hanbali scholars allow it and other do not.
What was the opinion of Imaam Ahmad [radi allahu `anhu], Ibn Qudamah [radi allahu `anhu] or other great Hanbali scholars on this issue?
Are there any good books in English that deal with this issue?
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al-salamu `alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu
The great Hanbali Imams have various opinions on this issue. In his notes on Majd al-Din's Al-Muharrar, Ibn Muflih (may Allah be merciful with them both) writes
...[Al-Majd] did not mention the ruling of his [the person praying] hands after rising from bowing. Imam Ahmad (may Allah be pleased with him) said, "If he so wishes, he lets them dangle [irsal]. And if he wishes he places his right [hand] on his left [hand]." Al-Qadi [Abu Ya`la] was certain of this [later] position [qata` bihi] in Al-Jami` [...] And in Al-Mudhhib and Al-Talkhis that he lets them hand down after rising. And in Ri`ayah it was mentioned that the difference here is just as in the case of [where] to place them after the inaugural takbir. (Al-Muharrar 1:62)
S o: both opinions are transmitted from Imam Ahmad (may Allah be pleased with him) and both opinions were accepted by early Imams of the madhhab (may Allah be pleased with them). Here's what we find in books (in rough chronological order):
Ibn Qudama in Al-`Umdah says nothing about where to place the hands after rising, and its commentary Al-`Uddah does not clear up the matter.
But in Al-Mughni Ibn Qudama puts forth the opinion of returning the hands to where they were.
Zad al-Mustaqni` (cf c3.9 in the translation) does not mention the hands after coming up. But in Al-Raud al-murbi` , Al-Buhuti says that either one is fine.
In Kashshaf al-qina` Al-Buhuti gives no preference (1:348).
In Mukhtasar al-ifadat (92) Ibn Balban does as Al-Buhuti.
But he says nothing in Akhsar al-Mukhtasarat although Al-Ba`li does explain it this way in Kashf al-mukhaddarat (1:134).
Mar`i bin Yusuf also does the same in Ghayat al-muntaha (1:128).
However
But in Dalil al-talib, he says that it is a sunna to let them hang down. Sheikh `Abd al-Qadir al-Taghlabi in Nail al-ma'arib is silent on this, as is Al-Lubadi in his marinal notes. (See Nail al-ma'arib 1:142). Ibrahim Duwayyan in Manar al-Sabil is also silent (p84).
H ere in Sham, the preferred book for fatwa is Nail al-ma'arib, so it is best to leave the hands down. But in the Gulf the preferred books for fatawa are Al-Buhuti's, so there the two are equal.
[The evidence]
Both opinions have their textual evidence. If you have Bulugh al-maram you can open the book to Bab sifat al-salat (The Prayer's Description), and look for hadiths 280 and 284 (the third and seventh hadiths). Numbering varies from print to print, and some do not even include hadith 280.
Those who say that the hands can (or should) be put back to where they were before bowing can cite hadith 280, a narration from Abu Hurayra (Allah be pleased with him) in Imam Ahmad's Musnad, that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said about rising from bowing, "And straighten your body [sulbak] until the bones return" (Ahmad 3:340). Since "bones" here is general, it includes all bones and not just the bones in the back. Therefore, this is a command to return all bones back to where they were before bowing, which includes returning the hands beneath the navel, clasping the left hand with the right.
Those who say that the hands should be left dangling can cite hadith 284, a hadith in Bukhari's Sahih narrated from Abu Humaid al-Sa`idi (Allah be pleased with him), in which the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, "And when you raise you head straighten up until each bones in your spine [the vertabra] returns to its place" (Al-Bukhari 2:305). Since "bones" here is constrained to the bones of the back and thus has nothing to do with other bones, so it only indicates that the back should be straightened as much as possible.
And Allah knows best.
[Books]
I personally have not read anything on this specific this topic in English, but I'm sure that there's quite a bit to be found.
And Allah knows best.
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