need suggestion - black magic by shia

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Assalam u Alaikum WaRahmatullah-e-WaBaraktuhu

I m sorry for such a long story

One of my very close relative got into a worst situation when their only son( the brother of 3 sisters) fall in love with a shiaa girl. Before that he was the most obedient one among all of his siblings. Was so caring and sensitive especially for his mother. But soon after meeting that girl he started pushing his mother to go to the girl's house and meet her parents. But the mother was totally against as they were ehle sunnah. He tried so hard but ALHAMDULILLAH his mother never got agree on this plus she trusted her son a lot that he will never go against her wishes. But one day he secretly married the same girl. And when his mother came to know about this thing, her first reaction was no my son can't do this. After that she got hospitalized for 2 days in shock. After that her son came to meet her and apologized. They started living separately. The mother was so worried about his son as he started going in shiaa majlis and started cursing SAHABA RA and Ayesha RZ. She talked to many aalims about his son and they all said your son is in sihr. The girl's family have done black magic on him continuously for three yrs and now they will never let your son come back to you. and they also said that the girl is not good. After that his mother brought him back to her house with his wife and a 6 month old son. The mother told her daughter in law that if you want to live here you have to convert to ehle sunnah. None of your family member will come to our house, you can go to meet your parents but in Moharram you will stay at home with me. And I want you to pray the way ehle sunnah do. She said OK sure. But she never did it. In Ramadhan she used to open the fast the way ehle tashee do. never prayed in 3 yrs. On every 9th, 10th moharram she used to lie that her mother or father is ill so she need to meet her/him. She never let her son get interact to his grandmother and never leave him alone with them. The son do not listen to her mother at all. And now whenever I meet that woman i always find her so sad and she cries all the time by saying my son was among those who never let me cry and now he doesnt care at all. The main concern of her mother now is that He should come back to ehle sunnah and stop following ehle tashee. But he do not listen to her. The second thing we noticed in him that he lies too much now. Whenever he did something like go to majlis he said I swear to ALLAH i never attended it and when someone caught him he said yes i was there. When she talks to any aalim they say your son is in sihr so he won't listen to you at all. He would only listen to his wife and her parents. He has no love for you now. They have given him owl's meat to eat which is a part of black magic and now he will only listen to them no matter how much you cry infront of him. Now the boy got 2 sons but the conditions are just the same. The aalims also suggested to dissolve the marriage as his nikah was carried by a Shia scholar. But they also say that dissolving nikah can also harm your son as they will never let your son go and the sihr is so hard on him. Can anyone tell me what Should she do now?

Jazakumullah Khairan

[Nafs Zakiyah]

Assalamu Alaykum,

I don't know the background, surroundings, and area they live in. And i am not here to judge.
While i understand why the mother acted like she did (assuming it was for religious and not cultural reasons). At the same time issues must be tackled, not ignored. And him marrying her in secret seems to have been a result of this not being done properly.

Elders in the communities need to start to educating themselves first and then the youngsters. They have to understand that a Sunni becoming a 12'er is not due to SIHR, but the convincing arguments they can have. Especially for those not well grounded in the Deen knowledge wise. People realise the importance of Ahlul Bayt from the Sahih Hadiths. So now they grow in love and attachment to Ahlul Bayt, but obviously most Sunnis fail to offer them a way to do so. Mention their Sirah, their characters, principles, and their Manhaj etc.

We also need to have a more rational and realistic approach towards history. Refusing to discuss history won't help. The days are long gone when the Ulama can hide the books from the people, and are not forced to deal with the tougher issues. While well intended, acting as if all Sahaba were almost infallible simply doesn't work anymore. Because if people grow up thinking the Sahaba didn't make mistakes, they are bound to get a shock when they realise that there were a lot of mistakes being made in early Islamic history. Instead we should tackle these issue, and educate people about the stances and positions of Ahlus Sunnah. It's the humbleness of the Shaba, them being human beings prone to error, that makes it possible for us to learn so much from them. Their Sirahs teach us how to better ourself, how to make things right despite our flaws etc. We can no longer deny our history. The books have been opened, and if Sunnis don't realise this soon, more of our brothers and sisters of Ahlus Sunnah are gonna be deceived by the Imami Shi'a.

I imagine the situation must be very difficult, and the way to bring her son back to Ahlus Sunnah should be with wisdom, love and convincing arguments.

wassalam

[DefendingIslam]

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Salam Alaykum,

The truth is that conversions out of Islam into other religions is unfortunately on the increase. The main reason for this is the total ignorance of the Muslim masses about the Deen. This opens up the door to all other non-Islamic groups to preach and convert people to their ways. Additionaly, since the entire world (including Muslim-majority countries) governs things contrary to what Islam has stipulated, then it is very difficult for many Muslims to rationalize what Islam says versus what the reality on the ground is.

The case with the Twelver Shias is somewhat more difficult, since the common Muslims will not know (and are not required to know in terms of personally obligatory knowledge) the balance between what constitutes proof in our religion, what is an acceptable manner of interpreting events, and other intricacies which are normally the job of the 'Aalims. So if some of the 'Ulama do not give their full-time effort in order to refute lies and explain to the masses the basis for Islam, many non-Muslim religions will have a chance to give their own propaganda, with terrifying results.

[DefendingIslam]

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I would like to say one thing about the particular case above:

It seems that there will be a need for more than "wisdom, love, and convincing arguments" since the man is emotionally attached to the Shia lady. If the local 'Ulama think that magic may have been applied, then what is their solution in this case, or do they think that the situation is a lost cause?

[sm1]

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I would like to say one thing about the particular case above:

It seems that there will be a need for more than "wisdom, love, and convincing arguments" since the man is emotionally attached to the Shia lady. If the local 'Ulama think that magic may have been applied, then what is their solution in this case, or do they think that the situation is a lost cause?

They advised her to read some particular Surah which she reads on daily basis. And the Aalim says they will read it too. But what happens is that the other side always come to know that she is reading something so then they start their amal more fastly. The mother found many times the blood drops on their main gate. The shia girl has a complete control on him. He can't speak anything infront of her. She is 4,5 yrs elder than him too. His mother discussed with him many times before his marriage about shiaa sunni issue. Called the elders of the family to talk to him and make him understand that its wrong. She has also seen once her father in law( the son's grandfather) in her dream who died few yrs back, what she saw that her father in law was so angry and asking her what happened to your son. Is he mad? She tried so hard to stop him but he was too involved and also said to his mother that she will leave ehle tashee soon. But now he says I cannot stop her. she prays the way she wants and I can't do anything. Aalims say that do not let your son eat anything from her. But he stopped eating anything from his mother and do eat what the shiaa girl feeds him. The mother also took him to an aalim but after knowing that where she is taking him, he refused to go inside by saying i will not meet any deobandi scholar and came back home. And everytime he does the same thing. The situation is too complicated to handle.

[mansoormj]

Its sad to hear a muslim adopting Shia beliefs. May Allah guide that guy. Wallahi this example is for parents to impart deeni knowledge irrespective of child being obedient or not. I don't think Sihr can affect belief of an individual unless he himself does it.
Effort to convey message should not be forced upon him as the more he is compelled the more he runs away. He will come to know the truth one day Inshallah.

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Assalam u Alaikum WaRahmatullah-e-WaBaraktuhu

There were two common things said by all the scholars she contacted. 1- the boy is in sihr. 2- the girl's character is not good.
In this case I have seen that how a single mistake made by a single person can lead his next generation to the totally wrong direction.

[Jawad_ Khan]

A very strong prescription for anyone suffering from black magic


http://www.khanqah.org/books/p/544/p...om-black-magic

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A very strong prescription for anyone suffering from black magic


http://www.khanqah.org/books/p/544/p...om-black-magic

Jazakumullah Khairan Brother

[TripolySunni]

Salam,

Wake up, it's no Magic! They fooled that boy into converting and his lust for that Shia girl blinded him, he's a puppet now as he obviously has a very weak Nafs and cannot resist temptation If you think the Shias can't trick anyone with their arguments then think again I almost became one at one point and was saved by a book about Imamah from Faysal Noor.

Salam Aleykum,