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    Default Shaykh al-Hind Mawlana Mahmud Hasan


    I was reading his bio on wikipedia and I came across this bit
    Mehmud Hasan was born in the town of Bareilly (in modern Uttar Pradesh).
    First of all is this true, and if it is did he ever call out Ahmad Raza Khan on his innovations or challange him to a debate?


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    Default Re: Shaikhul Hind Maulana Mehmud Hasan

    Assalam o alaykum,

    First of all, there are two Barelis. People always confuse these two.

    1. Rai' Bareli - It is about 80 miles east of Lukhnow. Imam Sayyid Ahmad Shaheed (may Allah have mercy on him) was from there.

    2. Bans Bareli - It is about 100 miles west of Lukhnow. Ahmad Rida Khan Barelwi was from this town.

    I am almost certain Shaykh al-Hind (may Allah have mercy on him) was from Rai' Bareli but need to confirm it. And even if he was from Bans Bareli, he didn't need to challenge Ahmad Rada Khan and waste time debating such individual. Debating a stubborn person is waste of time and doesn't lead to anywhere.
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    Ah ok, jazakallah for that. I didn't know there were 2 barelis XD and yea I understand Shaikhul Hind was busy w/ other things but I was just curious heh.


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    Default Re: Shaikhul Hind Maulana Mehmud Hasan

    Quote Originally Posted by Saad View Post
    First of all, there are two Barelis. People always confuse these two.

    1. Rai' Bareli - It is about 80 miles east of Lukhnow. Imam Sayyid Ahmad Shaheed (may Allah have mercy on him) was from there.

    2. Bans Bareli - It is about 100 miles west of Lukhnow. Ahmad Rada Khan Barelwi was from this town.
    I was never aware of that. May Allah reward you abundantly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saad View Post
    Debating a stubborn person is waste of time and doesn't lead to anywhere.
    very true.

    when you debate with barelvis they come out with some really stupid stuff that has no bearing on the point that is being debated. then if there is a group of them, their debater does some hand movement and bobbles his head and the rest of them cheer like he has given such proof for his point that no one can refute him.

    the challenger is left dumbstruck and bemused and doesnt know how to reply back to such foolishness.

    they are a very difficult group to debate with not because of their ilm but because of their ignorance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by xs11ax View Post
    very true.

    when you debate with barelvis they come out with some really stupid stuff that has no bearing on the point that is being debated. then if there is a group of them, their debater does some hand movement and bobbles his head and the rest of them cheer like he has given such proof for his point that no one can refute him.

    the challenger is left dumbstruck and bemused and doesnt know how to reply back to such foolishness.

    they are a very difficult group to debate with not because of their ilm but because of their ignorance.
    LOL !! That sounds like loadsa youtube debates i've seen!




    Lol !!!


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    Default Re: Shaikhul Hind Maulana Mehmud Hasan

    Quote Originally Posted by Saad View Post
    Assalam o alaykum,

    First of all, there are two Barelis. People always confuse these two.

    1. Rai' Bareli - It is about 80 miles east of Lukhnow. Imam Sayyid Ahmad Shaheed (may Allah have mercy on him) was from there.

    2. Bans Bareli - It is about 100 miles west of Lukhnow. Ahmad Rida Khan Barelwi was from this town.

    I am almost certain Shaykh al-Hind (may Allah have mercy on him) was from Rai' Bareli but need to confirm it. And even if he was from Bans Bareli, he didn't need to challenge Ahmad Rada Khan and waste time debating such individual. Debating a stubborn person is waste of time and doesn't lead to anywhere.


    Sayyid Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi was also from Rai Barreilly.

    And I'm sure Shakh al-Hind didn't live for long in Rai Barreilly because he was about 11 or something when he went to Daru Uloom Deoband (as the first ever student) and then he became involved with politics and stuff and also teaching in Deoband.


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