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    When does a person with gas problems qualify for the category of Ma'zur ?

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    Default Re: When does a person with gas problems qualify for the category of Ma'zur ?

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    When does a person with gas problems qualify for the category of Ma'zur ?

    i wud like to know this as well...
    Last edited by Salman_Hanafi; 09-04-2010 at 03:19 AM. Reason: Alim shud reply and i am not one


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    Default Re: When does a person with gas problems qualify for the category of Ma'zur

    Assalamu alaikum,

    If during an entire salaat time (from beginning time to end time) a person cannot hold in his gas and the gas comes out repeatedly without his intention, such that one cannot perform wudu and pray salaat, then one will be considered ma'zur for this excuse.


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    Default Re: When does a person with gas problems qualify for the category of Ma'zur



    If the time (for example) between Magrib and Isha is 2 hours, does this person has to leave gasses continuously for a time of 2 hours ? I mean does this person constantly has to renew his wudhu every time he breaks it until the 2 hours are reached ?

    What if this person takes within that 2 hours; 10 times wudhu because of releasing gasses every time, and at the 11th time he manages to pray with that wudhu ?

    What if the gas problem is not always but that i.e. sometimes this person manages to pray one salaat with it.

    To sum up if a person has daily overhelmong gas problems and this person has to take many times abulution before he can make up his salaat, sometimes he has not the problem and manages to pray his salaat in once.

    Can such person consider himself as a ma'zur and just ponder over the gas problem and continue his ibadat and salaats ?

    How will this ruling apply to a person with gas problems because this problem is not the same as a blood or urine dripping problems that happens with very short intervals ?



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    Default Re: When does a person with gas problems qualify for the category of Ma'zur ?



    Nobody to answer ?



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    Default Re: When does a person with gas problems qualify for the category of Ma'zur ?

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    Nobody to answer ?

    Assalamu alaikum brother,

    The situation was explained generally which may have confused you. I will explain properly. I suggest you also consult a scholar who can give you a better answer in case my answer is wrong. I am not an 'alim so it's up to you.

    Let's say Maghrib to Isha is 2 hours and it takes 7 minutes to make wudu and pray fardh of maghrib. Now if a person passes gas (without his control) at intervals of 7 minutes or less from Maghrib to Isha (for entire 2 hours) then he will be ma'zur.

    So how will he pray Maghrib? He should wait until there is about 10 mins left for Maghrib to end. At this point he should make wudu and pray his maghrib even if he passes gas. If he had already prayed Maghrib before without wudu (because of the gas problem) and the problem stopes (i.e. he had not passed gas for an interval of 7 minutes after praying Maghrib) then as long as Maghrib time remains he must repeat Maghrib because he was not ma'zur.

    Now in Isha time and all the paryer times which follow he must only experience passing of wind once (I have to check with scholars if this passing also has to be unintentional or if even intentional is fine). Since he is already ma'zur, if he experiences the problem once in the entire prayer time he will be excused from doing wudu (however if his wudu breaks for a reason other than passing of wind - eg. bleeding) then wudu must be repeated. He is only excused for passing of gas.

    But if after being classified as ma'zur one entire salaat time passes (like Maghrib to Isha - same as first example), then one will be reclassified as a normal person.

    I suggest you do some exercizes to strengthen your sphincter muscles. It's called Kergel exercises I believe.

    Also please read a fiqh book as well. You will understand better when people explain answers.


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    Default Re: When does a person with gas problems qualify for the category of Ma'zur ?

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    Assalamu alaikum brother,

    The situation was explained generally which may have confused you. I will explain properly. I suggest you also consult a scholar who can give you a better answer in case my answer is wrong. I am not an 'alim so it's up to you.

    Let's say Maghrib to Isha is 2 hours and it takes 7 minutes to make wudu and pray fardh of maghrib. Now if a person passes gas (without his control) at intervals of 7 minutes or less from Maghrib to Isha (for entire 2 hours) then he will be ma'zur.

    So how will he pray Maghrib? He should wait until there is about 10 mins left for Maghrib to end. At this point he should make wudu and pray his maghrib even if he passes gas. If he had already prayed Maghrib before without wudu (because of the gas problem) and the problem stopes (i.e. he had not passed gas for an interval of 7 minutes after praying Maghrib) then as long as Maghrib time remains he must repeat Maghrib because he was not ma'zur.


    So if one passes wind every 7 minutes, to be considered ma'zur he has to make about 15 wudu's in between Maghrib and Isha (if the time between these two prayers is 2 hours) and then 10 minutes before ending time he will take his final wudu and pray ?



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    Default Re: When does a person with gas problems qualify for the category of Ma'zur ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khali View Post


    So if one passes wind every 7 minutes, to be considered ma'zur he has to make about 15 wudu's in between Maghrib and Isha (if the time between these two prayers is 2 hours) and then 10 minutes before ending time he will take his final wudu and pray ?

    :Salam:
    Lol no. He will just wait till near the end of the time. Also just for clarification - the 7 mins. is just an example.

    I suggest you talk to someone who knows better - an 'alim.


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    Default Re: When does a person with gas problems qualify for the category of Ma'zur ?

    Quote Originally Posted by hope1 View Post
    :Salam:
    Lol no. He will just wait till near the end of the time. Also just for clarification - the 7 mins. is just an example.

    I suggest you talk to someone who knows better - an 'alim.


    How you mean not ? You say that it must happen in intervals of 7 minutes in to whole time between Maghrib and Isha. Thus for example for 2 hours long this person must be passing gas every 7 minutes (when he takes wudhu and wants to pray) until the whole time has expired between the two prayers.



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