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    Angry Turkey denying Muslim women there Right to wear hijab {young Woman}

    I am so angry after seeing this video it made me sick. May Allah give this young woman abundant rewards Ameen!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hrVxb-h0MY


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    the curse of Allah on these shayateen.

    may their face be defaced into that of a donkey so that they will be made to cover their own face.

    may Allah humiliate them in this world and the next.

    may they die a death not even worthy of a pig.

    may they not even have the dignity of a shroud to cover their dead corpse in the same way they wished to unshroud this girl.

    may dogs and swine dig up their corpse from the ground and feast upon their rotten flesh.


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    Really, really sad, but I've heard sadder

    A neighbor's grandmother took a bus all the way to see her grandson who was doing his military service.... Something like a 27-hour bus trip, and this is an old, old lady we're talking about... When she arrived, she wasn't allowed in to see her grandson (in the military camp, I mean) because of her headscarf. So she had to go all that way back without seeing him.

    A few months ago I saw on the news, a busful of students going to visit Canakkale (the scene of a battlefield where many Turks became martyrs). One girl was asked to get off the bus IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, because somebody remembered the no-hijab rule for trips to military shrines or something. She had to stand on the edge of a six-lane highway until a bus stopped and took her back home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xs11ax View Post


    the curse of Allah on these shayateen.

    may their face be defaced into that of a donkey so that they will be made to cover their own face.

    may Allah humiliate them in this world and the next.

    may they die a death not even worthy of a pig.

    may they not even have the dignity of a shroud to cover their dead corpse in the same way they wished to unshroud this girl.

    may dogs and swine dig up their corpse from the ground and feast upon their rotten flesh.
    Why don't you make du'a that Allah give them hidayah? That is more wise. Allah will give them what its worth without you cursing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by muminah View Post
    Why don't you make du'a that Allah give them hidayah? That is more wise. Allah will give them what its worth without you cursing.
    did not Allah curse in the quran? did not the Prophet curse? did not the sahaba curse?

    if Allah gave me the power then i would do much more then curse these people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by xs11ax View Post
    did not Allah curse in the quran? did not the Prophet curse? did not the sahaba curse?

    if Allah gave me the power then i would do much more then curse these people.
    Did the Prophet SAW curse the people of taaif or did he make du'a for them?


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    Default Re: Turkey denying Muslim women there Right to wear hijab {young Woman}

    Oh the irony a so called Muslim country which bans the hijab yet has no problem with bikini clad tourists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muminah View Post
    Did the Prophet SAW curse the people of taaif or did he make du'a for them?
    yes the Prophet made dua for them. he also attacked taif and laid taif to siege after fatah makkah.

    Volume 1, Book 8, Number 428:
    Narrated Abu Huraira:
    Allah's Apostle said, "May Allah's curse be on the Jews for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets."

    Volume 1, Book 9, Number 499:
    Narrated 'Amr bin Maimuin:
    'Abdullah bin Mas'ud said, "While Allah's Apostle was praying beside the Ka'ba, there were some Quraish people sitting in a gathering. One of them said, 'Don't you see this (who does deeds just to show off)? Who amongst you can go and bring the dung, blood and the abdominal contents (intestines, etc). of the slaughtered camels of the family of so and so and then wait till he prostrates and put that in between his shoulders?' The most unfortunate amongst them ('Uqba bin Abi Mu'ait) went (and brought them) and when Allah's Apostle prostrated, he put them between his shoulders. The Prophet remained in prostration and they laughed so much so that they fell on each other. A passerby went to Fatima, who was a young girl in those days. She came running and the Prophet was still in prostration. She removed them and cursed upon the Quraish on their faces. When Allah's Apostle completed his prayer, he said, 'O Allah! Take revenge on Quraish.' He said so thrice and added, 'O Allah! take revenge on 'Amr bin Hisham, 'Utba bin Rabia, Shaiba bin Rabi'a, Al-Walid bin'Utba, Umaiya bin Khalaf, 'Uqba bin Abi Mu'ait and 'Umar a bin Al-Walid." Abdullah added, "By Allah! I saw all of them dead in the battle field on the day of Badr and they were dragged and thrown in the Qalib (a well) at Badr: Allah's Apostle then said, 'Allah's curse has descended upon the people of the Qalib (well).


    Volume 2, Book 26, Number 671:
    Narrated Ibn Abbas:
    When Allah's Apostle came to Mecca, he refused to enter the Ka'ba with idols in it. He ordered (idols to be taken out). So they were taken out. The people took out the pictures of Abraham and Ishmael holding Azlams in their hands. Allah's Apostle said, "May Allah curse these people. By Allah, both Abraham and Ishmael never did the game of chance with Azlams." Then he entered the Ka'ba and said Takbir at its corners but did not offer the prayer in it.


    there are many many many more.


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    Default Re: Turkey denying Muslim women there Right to wear hijab {young Woman}

    Allaah Says (what means): {They call upon instead of Him none but female [deities], and they [actually] call upon none but a rebellious Satan. Whom Allaah has cursed.}[Quran 3:117-118]

    The scholars of Tafseer (interpretation of the Quran) hold the view that these two verses affirm that it is permissible to curse Satan personally – may Allaah curse him. They also apply the same ruling to non-Muslims in general. However, some scholars prohibited cursing them by name, except for those who die in the state of disbelief. Allaah Says (what means): {Cursed were those who disbelieved among the Children of Israel by the tongue of Daawood [David] and of ‘Eesa [Jesus], the son of Mary. That was because they disobeyed and [habitually] transgressed.}[Quran 5:78]

    However, it is not permissible to curse the Muslims who committed grave major sins in person. However, it is permissible to curse them collectively according to their sins, like cursing thieves, people who deal with Riba (interest or usury), those who consume intoxicants and produce it and those who practice homosexuality. Therefore, no person is permitted to say, "May the curse of Allaah be upon so and so, because he steals." Rather, a person should say, "May the curse of Allaah be on thieves." Note that it is only permissible to curse when the sin in proven by text to be cursed, like the above examples.

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    Ibn Abidin states in his Radd al-Muhtar [‘al-Hashiya’]:

    “The reality of cursing (la`n) is to distance from Mercy, which cannot be for other than an unbeliever (kafir).

    Because of this, it is not permitted to curse a particular individual, unless it is known that they died in a state of disbelief, with proof. [It remains impermissible to curse an individual person] even if they were openly corrupt, like Yazid, according to the relied upon scholarly opinion.

    As for Iblis (Satan), and the likes of Abu Jahl (f: who we know are in the Fire), it is permitted to curse them.

    It is also permitted to curse non-specific individuals, such as wrongdoers and liars, because what is understood is these people as a category, and it necessarily includes those who shall die in disbelief. In such cases, the purpose of cursing would be to show that such a trait is a trait of unbelievers, in order to warn and keep people away from it. One may not intend to curse everyone of such a group, because if cursing one particular individual, such as a given wrongdoer, is not permitted, then how would cursing every single oppressor be allowed? [Ibn Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar, 3.416, K: al-Talaq, B: al-Raj`a]
    إملاء الخير خير من السكوت والسكوت خير من إملاء الشر

    "Speaking what is good is better than silence, and silence is better than speaking evil."


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fake Shaykh View Post

    Ibn Abidin states in his Radd al-Muhtar [‘al-Hashiya’]:

    “The reality of cursing (la`n) is to distance from Mercy, which cannot be for other than an unbeliever (kafir).
    All arguments aside regarding whether it is better to make du'a for hidayah or to curse them (besides being obvious), these Turkish people do claim to be Muslims. Hence, we should watch our tounges, and in the name of brotherhood we should make du'a for them. Is there really something wrong with making du'aa?


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