A question concerning madhahib

[AbuFatimah]

Assalamu Alaykum

I am a Salafi Brother and I have gotten all the brothers in my town together to form a jumu'ah prayer and got an asian ex deobandi salafi imam to give the khutbas. As they are all hanafis but very weak in teh religion I thought it would be a good opportunity to convert a whole community to salafi islam bi ithnillah.

If teh imam teaches hanbali fiqh, is the community, or at least the children, obligated to take on hanbali fiqh during our lessons if they dont have a hanafi person of knowledge?

How does it work with madhahib and should you follow the madhab of your surrounding area?

[Colonel_Hardstone]

Assalamu Alaykum

I am a Salafi Brother and I have gotten all the brothers in my town together to form a jumu'ah prayer and got an asian ex deobandi salafi imam to give the khutbas. As they are all hanafis but very weak in teh religion I thought it would be a good opportunity to convert a whole community to salafi islam bi ithnillah.

If teh imam teaches hanbali fiqh, is the community, or at least the children, obligated to take on hanbali fiqh during our lessons if they dont have a hanafi person of knowledge?

How does it work with madhahib and should you follow the madhab of your surrounding area?

Normally following Madhabs is not an issue and have never been for the Muslim Ummah but for trouble makers like you...

Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) was Salaf and his Madhab was accepted by the Salaf THEREFOREthe Imam should teach Hanafi Madhab IF the congregation has greater number of Hanafees.

There is NO POINT in teaching large number of people a Madhab which they don't practise and don't have ready access to Scholars.

In UK overhwleming majority of Scholars are Hanafees so the access to Hanafi Scholars is greater.

[abulayl]

as you wil brain wash them with salafi islam, why do you even bother about their madhab akhi which they dont practise! at the end they gonna follow you.

[Abu Zakariya Yahya]

Assalamu Alaykum

I am a Salafi Brother and I have gotten all the brothers in my town together to form a jumu'ah prayer and got an asian ex deobandi salafi imam to give the khutbas. As they are all hanafis but very weak in teh religion I thought it would be a good opportunity to convert a whole community to salafi islam bi ithnillah.

If teh imam teaches hanbali fiqh, is the community, or at least the children, obligated to take on hanbali fiqh during our lessons if they dont have a hanafi person of knowledge?

How does it work with madhahib and should you follow the madhab of your surrounding area?

I'm kind of confused by what you mean by convert someone from Islam to Islam?

Btw, welcome back.

[Intrepid]

as you wil brain wash them with salafi islam, why do you even bother about their madhab akhi which they dont practise! at the end they gonna follow you.

Exactly, what's the point of adopting a madhab when your ultimate goal is to convert them all to Salafiism?

[abulayl]

Exactly, what's the point of adopting a madhab when your ultimate goal is to convert them all to Salafiism?

its an announcement like: heyyy am gonna convert your neighbour hanafis , catch me if you can

[AbuFatimah]

well most of them have agreed you have to follow the quran and sunnah but still incist on praying like a hanafi for some reason, no doubt because thats how they pray 'back home'. Most of them are restraunt workers.

one guy knows a bit more and says you have to follow one of the four imams but as we are apparently 'neo hanbalis' i figured we'll just teach hanbali fiqh inshallah as the end result is the same and they can adopt athari aqeedah too inshallah.

Abu hanifah (rh) was indeed of the salaf but so also was imam ahmed ibn hanbal (rh), and as followers of the salaf we so know reason to specify imam abu hanifah (rh) specifically over the other salaf.

As far as i know, There is no such principle from the muqalideen that states an imam trained in one madhab must adopt the madhab of the people. If you know counter to this, please provide your source.

The uk is an imaginary boundRy created by the kuffar, in our specific area the only person of knowledge available is a salafi and as ive read from your other threads on this forum, people are supposed to follow the madhab of their local imam

I agree that they dont follow their madhab very well, then again neither do most hanafis

[AbuFatimah]

I'm kind of confused by what you mean by convert someone from Islam to Islam?

Btw, welcome back.

Jazak allahu khair brother.

The initial aim inshallah is to eradicate cultural attachment and teach them pure islam and get them far far away from sufism and asharism inshallah.

The community consists of 'hanafis' from turkey and 'hanafis' from bangladesh and even those two hizbs cant agree on which bid'ah to partake in after the end of jumu'ah

The muslims are at fault for the dire situation we're in. Only by not chasing the tails of cows and practicing true islam and changing whats within ourseleves will the khalifah rashideen return bi ithnillahi t'ala. The current state they are in is detrimental to the ummah

[AbuFatimah]

we're currently teaching them aqeedah inshallah and we've established daruus but we need to break down the staunch taqleed of their forefathers and unite them upon the one true islam bi ithnillahi t'ala so we'd like to practice and teach just one fiqh and not group dua for the bagalis and group 'zicker' for the turkish after wajib salah.

Its funny how every tried to advise me that the prophet saw never used to raise his hands after ruku and when i asked them how they knew that none of them knew how and the penny dropped with many of them. Its still an on going struggle getting them to completely reject their old culture and follow the sunnah though so thought id come here for a discussion to see if i can learn any useful info inshallah to help get them unified upon salafiyah bi ithnillah

[student of deen]

David,your just provoking people on here. Why give more info then we need? Just ask and youll get an answer,why talk as if were dodgy and youv descended from heaven. By the way technically WE are salafis while your a khalfi,i'll leave it to you to work it out.
Your just a test from Allah AZ