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    Default Re: What does this ASKIMAM Fatwa mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel_Hardstone View Post
    It means what it means.

    I think, the questioner didn't express the question well out of shyness. So, she got the response based on whatever she expressed.

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    She used the term "making love", which to the one answering the question, did not interpret this as having s-e-x. Making love, can be kissing, hugging, etc...

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    Making loving means having sex, it doesn't mean kissing, hugging, etc. So since the person misunderstood the terminology they based their judgement upon that, and with that being said it can now cause more confusion for a person reading it. Because according to the fatwa a person can make love as long as no DIRECT skin contact is made, which can be possible.


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    Making love does normally refer to sexual intercourse but not necessarily. In fact this euphemism has meanings of other than sex. So the answer is spot on and well-researched, and the way the answer tackles the different meanings is probably to avoid any confusion. Only those who don't know the variant meanings of this euphemism would be confused.

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    Making love -- Lyly's Euphues. "Wordsworth Book of Euphemism" by Judith S. Neaman and Carole G. Silver (Wordsworth Editions, Hertfordshire, 1995). Page 245.

    To caress and kiss. To copulate. Both before the 1600s. "Slang and Euphemism: A Dictionary of Oaths, Curses, Insults, Ethnic Slurs, Sexual Slang and Metaphor, Drug Talk, College Lingo and Related Matters" by Richard A. Spears (New American Library, Penguin Putnam, New York, Third Edition, 2001) Page 220.

    However, in Bette Davis' movies it meant romancing rather than copulation.


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    Please also notice what it says on the bottom of the page

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    Salam,

    Quote Originally Posted by al-Kankohi View Post
    Making love does normally refer to sexual intercourse but not necessarily. In fact this euphemism has meanings of other than sex. So the answer is spot on and well-researched, and the way the answer tackles the different meanings is probably to avoid any confusion. Only those who don't know the variant meanings of this euphemism would be confused.
    I'm one of those who don't know the various meanings! If it's not particularly explicit, would you mind telling me what else 'making love' means?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshimitsu View Post
    Salam,



    I'm one of those who don't know the various meanings! If it's not particularly explicit, would you mind telling me what else 'making love' means?


    Does this suffice?

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    http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_b...sages/443.html

    "Making love -- Lyly's Euphues. "Wordsworth Book of Euphemism" by Judith S. Neaman and Carole G. Silver (Wordsworth Editions, Hertfordshire, 1995). Page 245.

    To caress and kiss. To copulate. Both before the 1600s. "Slang and Euphemism: A Dictionary of Oaths, Curses, Insults, Ethnic Slurs, Sexual Slang and Metaphor, Drug Talk, College Lingo and Related Matters" by Richard A. Spears (New American Library, Penguin Putnam, New York, Third Edition, 2001) Page 220.

    However, in Bette Davis' movies it meant romancing rather than copulation. "


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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel_Hardstone View Post
    Dear Brother, Assalaamoalaikum.

    The question reads as follows: "I made love to my husband during menses a few times. I know that it's forbidden to have sexual intercourse during menstruation. Do i have to pay a kuffarah for doing that? And ask Allah foir forgiveness."

    The question is clear. Making love here means sexual intercourse as explicitly mentioned in the second sentence.

    The fatwa, on the contrary, does not provide a clear-cut reply to the question. Sexual intercourse and skin to skin contact between navel and knees do not mean the same thing. Not to approach one's wife during her menstruation period means that it is not allowed to have sexual intercourse during that period.

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    I must admit I am a bit shocked that the shaykh did not know the exact meaning of the expression "make love to". I mean he is living in an English speaking country... But OK if one grew up in a madrasa environment, never heard a pop song or watched a movie etc. as a child/youth then maybe that will explain it.
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