How many Stages in Shadhili Tariqah ?

[seeker_ikb]

I have read somewhere that in Naqshbandi tariqah , there are 35 stages. In Chistiya tariqah you can travel through 24 stages. What about Shadhili tariqah ?

Is there any information available about this issue ? May be , any good mureed of Shaykh Nuh
Keller ( DB ) can clarify this issue .

[London786]

small correction bro...what you say about the naqshbandi silsila is correct...however the chistis are a bit different...Every shaykh kind of has his own tarteeb that might vary from mureed to mureed...there is no set syllabus like the naqshbandis....i mean every naqshbandi shaykh will take you through the 35 lessons etc but with the chistis it is different...some of the khulafah of maulana madni only prescribe pas anfas....maulana ilyas first gave maulana inam ul hasan pas anfas from fajr to zuhr continuos and after 6 months he was given bara tashbeeh with isme zaat 40,000 times per day...other mashaikh give 3 tasbeehs with 1 juz quraan...then add maybe 1 hiz of hizbul azam and then maybe 1 hizb of dalail ul khayrat....some people get bara tashbeeh straight away...some will get isme zaat....start 1000 daily and then move up....some mureeds are given habs dabs...others not....so amongst the chistis there does not seem to be some sort of syllabus as such it varies from shaykh to shaykh and also depends on the mureed...I mean I heard of 1 shaykh who would not take mureeds unless they prayed 1 year salah with takbir-e-ula...that was the test before bayah...others will not give you any zikr unless you are regular in 3 tasbeehs plus 1 juz quraan per day for 6 months...after you do this then you can get some more...I know of 1 shaykh who has given mureeds durood tunjinah 70 times with salatul tashbeeh daily and this has to be done for 40 days....and thereafter maybe u get more....or u continue with that....

with regards to the shadilis it's better that someone else makes a comment....

[ahlezikr]

but with the chistis it is different...

To my understanding also the Chistis are different. Each Shaykh has his own tarteeb and it all depends on the mureed. Maulana Khalil Ahmad Saharanpuri (rah) told Sheikhul Hadith Zakariya (rah) that "...the Shaykh is like a tap, its upto the mureed to open the tap and benefit. To what extent he opens he will benefit." He added a word of caution. "Remember, the Shaykh is the only tap"

Chisti's stress of tauhid e matlab (understanding that you can benefit from one Shaykh only) and munasibat a lot. Love for the Shaykh is imperative or he will not progress even if he is doing Zikr in 1000's.

[London786]

I agree bro...without love of the shaykh its very difficult no matter how much zikr is done...actually tauhid-e-matlab is applied very strictly in other silsilas...thats why some shadilis dont even allow mureeds to go in tableegh...

[seeker_ikb]

small correction bro...what you say about the naqshbandi silsila is correct...however the chistis are a bit different...Every shaykh kind of has his own tarteeb that might vary from mureed to mureed...there is no set syllabus like the naqshbandis....i mean every naqshbandi shaykh will take you through the 35 lessons etc but with the chistis it is different...some of the khulafah of maulana madni only prescribe pas anfas....maulana ilyas first gave maulana inam ul hasan pas anfas from fajr to zuhr continuos and after 6 months he was given bara tashbeeh with isme zaat 40,000 times per day...other mashaikh give 3 tasbeehs with 1 juz quraan...then add maybe 1 hiz of hizbul azam and then maybe 1 hizb of dalail ul khayrat....some people get bara tashbeeh straight away...some will get isme zaat....start 1000 daily and then move up....some mureeds are given habs dabs...others not....so amongst the chistis there does not seem to be some sort of syllabus as such it varies from shaykh to shaykh and also depends on the mureed...I mean I heard of 1 shaykh who would not take mureeds unless they prayed 1 year salah with takbir-e-ula...that was the test before bayah...others will not give you any zikr unless you are regular in 3 tasbeehs plus 1 juz quraan per day for 6 months...after you do this then you can get some more...I know of 1 shaykh who has given mureeds durood tunjinah 70 times with salatul tashbeeh daily and this has to be done for 40 days....and thereafter maybe u get more....or u continue with that....

with regards to the shadilis it's better that someone else makes a comment....

To get a khilafat from a shaykh , it is not necessary for the mureed to travel through all the stages.
In one mode of khilafat , a shaykh gives khilafat to mureed with this expection that he will travel through the remaing stages by himself.

So I think, a low ranking Chisitiya shaykh will prescribe certain spiritual exercises to his mureeds whereas a higher ranking Shyakh will offer more spiritual exercises to his mureeds .
That's why , I think , you have seen different types of syllabus in Chisti order. Actually , all those
syllabus are parts of a bigger syllabus which should be described in some old Farsi ( Persian ) books as mentioned below.

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6. IRSHAD-E-MURSHID (The Directive of the Murshid)
This book deals with wazaa-if, muraaqabaat, auraad and the shajaraat of the four Silsilah. It was written in 1293 Hijri.


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Ziyaul Quloob ( Glitter of the Hearts )


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This book is in Farsi. Hadhrat wrote this book in Makkah Mukarramah in 1282 Hijri on the request of Hafiz Muhammad Yusuf, the son of Hadhrat Hafiz Muhammad Zamin.

Hadhrat Thanwi writes in his Malfْzaat that Haji Imdadullah said:
“I have deleted two thirds of Ziyaul Quloob because I was informed by ilhaam (divine inspiration) that it is inappropriate to reveal it. In it (the two thirds) is written the effects of Ashgaal.”

[seeker_ikb]

with regards to the shadilis it's better that someone else makes a comment....

Shaykh Nuh Keller's mureeds use a booklet called "Tariqa Notes " where a great deal of info on Shadhili tariqa is given. You can get this book as an attachment in the following thread.

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...i-tariqa/page6

[muhammadnur]

The shadhili is more like a 2 step. Pre-Khalwa - Post-Khalwa. Shaykh Nuh quoted from Shaykh Abdur-Rahman that the khalwa is 90% of the tariqa. As for Shaykh Nuh he has 7 lessons that a murid must complete before entering the khalwa. I don't think the various stages you arrive at are dealt with in the same way as the other turuq you mentioned.

[Nafs Zakiyah]

Bismillah
Assalamu Alaykum,

While it is true that many Shathili paths emphasis Khalwa, this is more of a Darqawi deviation(and some other paths). This is of course perfectly fine, but not necessarily representative for all the Shathili paths. Personally I believe there is a lot of Khayr in the Khalwa, so I am by no means trying to discredit it.

wassalam

[seeker_ikb]

The shadhili is more like a 2 step. Pre-Khalwa - Post-Khalwa. Shaykh Nuh quoted from Shaykh Abdur-Rahman that the khalwa is 90% of the tariqa. As for Shaykh Nuh he has 7 lessons that a murid must complete before entering the khalwa. I don't think the various stages you arrive at are dealt with in the same way as the other turuq you mentioned.

Are you a mureed of Shaykh Nuh Keller ( DB ) ? If so , have you read the book " Sufism and Islam " written by your shaykh ? I have tried to get a review of this book on amazon , but so far, no success.

The book is available in this link.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sufism-Islam.../dp/9957230255

[muhammadnur]

I have not read that book.