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    Default Imam Bukhari could not have aquired 600,000 ahadeeth and penned down bukhari....

    Assalam aleykoum,



    I would like to talk about the study of imam al BOUKHARI with all respect due to him :



    About the Hadiths of the Boukhari, I think we all agree that is the more authentic Hadiths we have nowdays ok ?

    I think you know that Boukahri used to clean hiself by a big Bath or al WUDU and then to pray 2 RAAKATS before to write 1 hadith, ok ?


    During his 16 years of life around many countries and cities, looking for about the Hadiths of our prophete Mohamed SWS.
    He collected about 600 000 Hadiths and took in his book SAHIH BOUKHARI about 7 275 Hadiths


    Lets do some Mathematics together :


    We have 600 000 Hadiths in 16 years in Lunar Calendar, lets give to Bouhari 10 hours a day with the time spending in road and meeting and talking with people.


    They tell us that Boukhari used to taking time to do WUDU and 2 RAAKAT before righting a single Hadiths ok ? we will say that take him about 15 minutes for a prayer .



    I summarize 600 000 Hadiths in 16 years


    We know that a calendar for muslims is based on the Moon, A lunar calendar has 354 Days
    If we multiply 354 days per 16 years we have 5 664 days

    Let’s say he has 10 hours every day to travel and meet people.


    L’est give him Half of the time to study what he has colleted during a day.


    10 divided by 2 equal 5 hours to study every day what he has write from people.

    At the end we have 5 hours to study muliply 5 664 days during his life to collect all hadiths, we have 28 320 hours of time.

    Keep in mind he has 600 000 Hadiths to collect and study in 28 320 Hours time

    That give us 600 000 Hadiths divided by 28 320 hours, the result is 21 hadiths per hours to study.


    He has 21 Hadiths to study and analyze every hour, less the 15 minutes needed for the WUDU and the 2 RAAKAT for each Hadiths.


    That means he has 60 minutes ( One hour )divided by 21 hadiths, that give us 3 minutes to study only one hadith.


    Are you serious how an human, who is not a prophete or a messenger of Allah SWT can study ;


    1 Hadith in 3 minutes ? is it a serious study ? its impossible for any human


    We can not say Boukhari has done a very serious job with that mathematic calculation



    Is it possible or not ?



    I give you the GIFT of 15 minutes for WUDU and 2 RAKAAT, I am kind I will not pay attention to the 15 minutes for each Hadith.


    If I take the 15 minutes we have 3-15 equal -12 minutes for each Hadith can you have minus 12 ( -12) to study 1 hadith its impossible.




    Do what you want, think what you want figures are in front of you, you can verify by yourself.


    I ask Allah SWT to guide us and to forgive us, amin.


    Assalam aleykoum.



    PS : I will reply Inshallah to your previous mail.


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    Default Re: Imam Bukhari could not have aquired 600,000 ahadeeth and penned down bukhari....

    This "analysis" is comical in its child-like simplicity. It is replete with factual errors, logical fallacies, and basic misunderstandings.

    Again, I advise you to stop trying to prove something here, and spend your time going and learning true Islam. You are not convincing anyone with these nonsensical arguments that you are making-up. You are only succeeding in making yourself look foolish.

    1. Imam Bukhari did not ONLY spend sixteen years collecting hadith. In fact his childhood was also spent learning ahaadeeth and he is said to have even memorized the works of Abdullah ibn Mubarak while he was still a child. He was authoring books and collecting ahaadeeth before even becoming baaligh.

    2. He did not collect ahaadeeth from 600000 different people. Many of the people he got ahaadeeth from were themselves collectors of ahaadeeth and had themselves collected hundreds, thousands, or tens of thousands of ahaadeeth in their memory. So it was very easy for him to investigate the person, learn their chain of narration, etc. and then quickly memorized all the ahaadeeth they had.

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    1 Hadith in 3 minutes ? is it a serious study ? its impossible for any human
    According to you, memorizing 100's of thousands of ahaadeeth is probably also impossible. You clearly have not studied the history of our scholars or even met the scholars of today, or you would know about their amazing power of memorization.

    4. You write "10 hours per day". Perhaps you were allotting 8-9 hours of sleep? And yet many of our pious predecessors and scholars of today used to sleep as little as 2-3 hours or less per day.

    5. Even if the above 4 were not sufficient, even then your "analysis" falls apart because it does not consider the blessing that Allah put in the time of the pious. Many of our scholars have written so many books that if you counted all the pages, and the number of years they lived, they will have written an average of some pages every single day from their birth to their death. And yet they lived full lives, ran business, were married, had children, prayed 5 times a day, etc. etc. Even recent and contemporary scholars like Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi عليه الرحمه have written so many books in their short life times, that if we added them all up and looked at how long they lived it would seem impossible. And yet it is confirmed that they did it.


    Each of the five points above is, by itself, sufficient to discredit your analysis.

    Please stop posting these kind of uneducated rants and, if you're truly interested in Islam, go learn about it. You don't need to make things up. There are scholars alive who are available to teach you.
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    Default Re: Imam Bukhari could not have aquired 600,000 ahadeeth and penned down bukhari....

    Correct me if I'm wrong but 600000 ahaadeeth according to isnad & matn and not just matn as this clown is trying to suggest.

    May Allah raise the status of Imam Bukhair and humiliate the haters!


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    Default Re: Imam Bukhari could not have aquired 600,000 ahadeeth and penned down bukhari....

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil al-Mamluk View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but 600000 ahaadeeth according to isnad & matn and not just matn as this clown is trying to suggest.

    May Allah raise the status of Imam Bukhair and humiliate the haters!
    Ah, true, this also slipped my mind. Point # 6.
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    Default Re: Imam Bukhari could not have aquired 600,000 ahadeeth and penned down bukhari....

    lol

    The Mathematics is so ridiculous that as soon as he started equating it made my mind go blank. "let say" "Lets give" "Lets do" blah blah........blah!

    Hilarious.

    JazakAllah Br Meelash for the reply.

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    Default Re: Imam Bukhari could not have aquired 600,000 ahadeeth and penned down bukhari....

    stephane, stop wasting your time and others time. No one is listening to you here or taking any notice of you.


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    Default Re: Imam Bukhari could not have aquired 600,000 ahadeeth and penned down bukhari....

    Quote Originally Posted by meelash View Post
    Ah, true, this also slipped my mind. Point # 6.


    Not to mention that great awliyah of Allah recite one whole Quran in a day, 2 in Ramadan, yet at the same time during the day lead Salah, meet people and write their scholarly works.

    I guess for those with weak or little Imaan based on purely materialistic derivations these things are "not possible".

    There's also the beautiful topic of time management.....


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    Default Re: Imam Bukhari could not have aquired 600,000 ahadeeth and penned down bukhari....

    Are you Serious!!?? You need to take a biography of Imam Bukhari and sit down with it. Only then will you realize how ridiculous this post is.
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    Default Re: Imam Bukhari could not have aquired 600,000 ahadeeth and penned down bukhari....

    Assalam aleykoum sisters and brothers,


    Surah 39


    3. Is it not to Allah that sincere devotion is due? But those who take for protectors other than Allah (say): "We only serve them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah." Truly Allah will judge between them in that wherein they differ. But Allah guides not such as are false and ungrateful.


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    Default Re: Imam Bukhari could not have aquired 600,000 ahadeeth and penned down bukhari....



    MashAllah very nice ayah.. But what is your point brother?

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