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    Question Did the prophet(saw) raise his hands while making dua? Making dua in unison bid'ah?

    Question: After fard salat (i.e. after saying salam), some people make Dua while others say only Tasbih Fatmi. Some people are adament that making Dua after salat is Bidat. This is causing some restraint in the cummunity speacially those who follow Imam Abu Hanifa or Shafai.
    Can we make dua'a after salat.
    Can we make dua'a with the imama after salat alltogether.

    Answer: Praise be to Allaah.

    It says in Fatawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah: Making du’aa’ after the obligatory prayers is not Sunnah if it is done by raising the hands, whether that is done by the imam alone or a member of the congregation alone, or it is done by them both together. Rather that is bid’ah, because it was not narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or any of his companions (may Allaah be pleased with them) did that. With regard to making du’aa’ without doing that (raising the hands etc.), there is nothing wrong with it, because there are some ahaadeeth concerning that. Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 7/103

    The Committee was asked about raising the hands for du’aa’ after the five daily prayers – is it proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) raised his hands or not? If it is not proven, is it permissible to raise the hands after the five daily prayers or not?

    They replied: It is not proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) raised his hands in du’aa’ after the obligatory prayers as far as we know, so raising them after the salaam of an obligatory prayer is contrary to the Sunnah. Fataawa al-Lajnah, 7/104

    The Committee also stated that saying du’aa’ out loud after the five daily prayers or regular Sunnah prayers, or reciting du’aa’ in unison as a regular practice is a reprehensible innovation (bid’ah), because it was not proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or his companions (may Allaah be pleased with them) did anything like that. Whoever makes du’aa’ after the obligatory or regular Sunnah prayers in unison is going against the way of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, and for those people to accuse those who disagree with them of being kaafirs and not belonging to Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, is misguidance, ignorance and a distortion of the facts. Fataawa Islamiyyah, 1/319

    And Allaah knows best.

    i came across this on another forum. If this is indeed the case then how come after every salah the imam raises his hand and we make prayer in unison???
    "Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path)" 2:18


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    Default Re: Did the prophet(saw) raise his hands while making duaa? Making duaa in unison bid

    Jazakallah khair brother.

    The imam at our masjid needs to read this.
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    Default Re: Did the prophet(saw) raise his hands while making duaa? Making duaa in unison bid

    Collective du'a after Prayer, Raising hands while making dua and wiping the face afterward

    http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/collectivedua.htm


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    Default Re: Did the prophet(saw) raise his hands while making duaa? Making duaa in unison bid

    ...And whatsoever the messenger giveth you, take it. And whatsoever he forbiddeth, abstain (from it)..(59:7)

    ...if I forbid you to do something, then keep away from it. And if I order you to do something, then do of it as much as you can.(Bukhari: Volume 9, Book 92, Number 391)


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    Default Re: Did the prophet(saw) raise his hands while making duaa? Making duaa in unison bid

    As there is no sound proof of Sunnah on this matter, we shouldn't be practicing this..!


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    Default Re: Did the prophet(saw) raise his hands while making duaa? Making duaa in unison bid



    There is no clear proof for collective dua after salah. However, there is nothing wrong in doing collective dua if people do not regard it as necessary. If people do not regard congregational dua as necessary then there is no harm in practicing on it. Especially considering ahaadith which are general.

    and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best.


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    Default Re: Did the prophet(saw) raise his hands while making duaa? Making duaa in unison bid

    Quote Originally Posted by fahadravian View Post
    As there is no sound proof of Sunnah on this matter, we shouldn't be practicing this..!
    visit the link which i have posted ... read it carefully with your eyes open and then start posting


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    Default Re: Did the prophet(saw) raise his hands while making duaa? Making duaa in unison bid

    Quote Originally Posted by SOA7007 View Post
    visit the link which i have posted ... read it carefully with your eyes open and then start posting
    Assalam Alaikum

    I read link u provided.
    http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/collectivedua.htm

    But couldn't find any Authentic reference about Collective dua. But got something as follow

    Collective dua of the Imam and Muqtadi (follower) after Salah: There is no evidence in the Sunnah for it and since it is disruptive to late-comers of Salah (who are trying to complete their Salah) & in our times people have started considering it compulsory and a part of Salah; it should be be avoided. Mufti Ibraheem Desai (DB) advises:


    Thank u for helping us by providing such a good link

    I got something while reading Muslim. From following hadith we can learn it wasn't prophets regular practice to make a Collective dua after prayer. Plz see as follow

    Muslim :: Book 4 : Hadith 1953
    Anas reported that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) was not accustomed to raise his hands in any supplication he made except when praying for rain. (He would then raise [his hands] high enough) that the whiteness of his armpits became visible. 'Abd al-A'la said that (he was in doubt whether it was) the whiteness of his armpit or armpits.



    Salam
    ...And whatsoever the messenger giveth you, take it. And whatsoever he forbiddeth, abstain (from it)..(59:7)

    ...if I forbid you to do something, then keep away from it. And if I order you to do something, then do of it as much as you can.(Bukhari: Volume 9, Book 92, Number 391)


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    Default Re: Did the prophet(saw) raise his hands while making duaa? Making duaa in unison bid

    Quote Originally Posted by rqsnnt View Post
    Assalam Alaikum

    I got something while reading Muslim. From following hadith we can learn it wasn't prophets regular practice to make a Collective dua after prayer. Plz see as follow

    Muslim :: Book 4 : Hadith 1953
    Anas reported that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) was not accustomed to raise his hands in any supplication he made except when praying for rain. (He would then raise [his hands] high enough) that the whiteness of his armpits became visible. 'Abd al-A'la said that (he was in doubt whether it was) the whiteness of his armpit or armpits.

    Salam

    There are some Ahadith which indicate the lifting of the finger in place of lifting of the hands. This is not a prohibition to lifting the hands. Although there is also in some Ahadith what seems as a prohibition to lifting the hands, this is taken as a discouragement to executing this act excessively. Or it could be that according to the narrator, Nabi (sallallahu alaihi wasallam)sometimes said this and other times he lifted his hands in du`aa.

    Like it comes in the Hadith of Hadhrat Anas (radhiallahu anhu) that Nabi (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) did not lift his hands in du`aa except in Istisqaa. This is mentioned in order to discourage exaggeration in the lifting of hands at other times. Muhaddith Qastalaani (rahmatullahi alaih) states that here is meant that Nabi (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) did not lift his hands excessively (very high) except in Istisqaa.

    Similarly, Imaam Nawawi (rahmatullahi alaih) mentions in the Sharah of Muslim, commenting on this Hadith : " It may be misconstrued from this Hadith that Nabi (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) did not lift his hands at other times other than in Istisqaa.

    However it is not like this. It is proven in many other places that Nabi (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) did in fact lift his hands in du`aa. This is mentioned in so many other places that it is difficult to count them. I have counted more than 30 places in Bukhari and Muslim wherein it is proven that Nabi (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) lifted his hands in du`aa.

    Allama Ubai (rahmatullahi alaih), a famous Maaliki Aalim, has mentioned in his commentary of Muslim Shareef : Imaam Shafi (rahmatullahi alaih) has stated regarding those Ahadith wherein there is a prohibition (to lifting the hands), that the reference is to excessive lifting of the hands, so much so that to lift the hands right up, above the head such that the armpits are visible is prohibited. This (to excessively lift the hands) is only for Salaatus Istisqaa. However, to lift the hands for other du`aas is proven.
    إملاء الخير خير من السكوت والسكوت خير من إملاء الشر

    "Speaking what is good is better than silence, and silence is better than speaking evil."


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