What proportion of muslims believe in stoning homosexuals

[Lord Nelson]

I consider stoning people to be an extreme act regardless of the crime. There are some crimes where I can understand why some people would want an extreme punishment, like mass murder or paedophilia.

Personally, I have no issue with homosexuals. It is up to them what they do with their bodies. I don't wish to be a part of or a witness to homosexual acts but I also don't feel that if someone else does they are a criminal. I also don't believe their homosexuality has any bearing on their character. There are good people who happen to be gay and there are bad people who happen to be gay.

Who among you believe that homosexuality is a crime and should be punished? Why is this? What do you believe the punishment should be? What, in your experience, is the general view among muslims on this?

Thank you for your time.

[marco100]

You can ask how many Christians believe in stoning homosexuals.

You're welcome

[MujahidAbdullah]

You could probably say a large number of the Muslim population agree with stoning, but there are many factors which come into play before a person can be sentenced to stoning.

For example adultery: The punishment for this is stoning, but in order to be convicted you must have 3/4 witnesses who saw the penetration. This obviously does not happen often.

[Lord Nelson]

You can ask how many Christians believe in stoning homosexuals.

You're welcome

I would, but probably on a Christian forum mate. ;-)

[Lord Nelson]

You could probably say a large number of the Muslim population agree with stoning, but there are many factors which come into play before a person can be sentenced to stoning.

For example adultery: The punishment for this is stoning, but in order to be convicted you must have 3/4 witnesses who saw the penetration. This obviously does not happen often.

I dunno. Members of Parliament get up to some pretty strange things these days! ;-)

[muslim_white_british]

stoning adulterers is what the creator told us to do and as a result muslims have better family units and rarely have adulterers ruin their families lives. Meanwhile in the oh so conscious liberal minded west, over 50% of marriages end up in divorce and society is in a real mess and things only look set to get worse. Communism sounds theoretical perfect and practicality wise its horrendous. Islam sounds theoretically horrendous (at least to the modern western liberal mind) but in practicality the muslim community in the uk are much better off than the non muslim community despite the fact that islam is not implemented at governmental level and most peoples parents or grandparents were not religious and left a muslim land to live in the land of disbelief for the sake of a few worldly gains and usually involve alcohol and interest and things.

So i dont know what islam says about homosexuality, but whatever it says, no matter how abhorrent it sounds to an intellectual theorist, ive no doubt that the reality is that is would positively impact on society like all islamic laws. IF islam says stone gays id support it

[Lord Nelson]

stoning adulterers is what the creator told us to do and as a result muslims have better family units and rarely have adulterers ruin their families lives. Meanwhile in the oh so conscious liberal minded west, over 50% of marriages end up in divorce and society is in a real mess and things only look set to get worse. Communism sounds theoretical perfect and practicality wise its horrendous. Islam sounds theoretically horrendous (at least to the modern western liberal mind) but in practicality the muslim community in the uk are much better off than the non muslim community despite the fact that islam is not implemented at governmental level and most peoples parents or grandparents were not religious and left a muslim land to live in the land of disbelief for the sake of a few worldly gains and usually involve alcohol and interest and things.

So i dont know what islam says about homosexuality, but whatever it says, no matter how abhorrent it sounds to an intellectual theorist, ive no doubt that the reality is that is would positively impact on society like all islamic laws. IF islam says stone gays id support it

The view I have been given of Islamic societies/countries isn't exactly all sweetness and roses either mate.

I agree with you that western society has its problems and I also agree with you that many of these are due to overly liberal attitudes. I am not here to pretend that the west, Christianity, Judaism have all the answers right while Islam has them all wrong. I am mostly here to understand what the posters on this forum think about these issues. To get it from the horses mouth so to speak.

Believe me, I am no fan of communism either.

So you would support Islam regardless of what it tells you to do? If Islam said you should kill your wife or child, would you do that? (Apologies for the harsh example used but I think it is necessary to get to the bottom of the question)

[xs11ax]

To understand this we need to understand why homosexuality and adultery is so abhorrent to islam and also to the other abrahamic faiths. When we realise why, then we will understand that the punishment fits the crime and also why such a harsh deterrent is needed.

In todays age we have been diverted so far away from our fitrah that what is good and bad has changed places. So being accepting of homosexuality is applauded and being against it has become a crime. If we step back through time towards the creation of humanity we can observe that the closer we get to our origins, the closer we are to the fitrah of mankind. Homosexuality is an abomination and is not part of the fitrah of mankind.

[muslim_white_british]

The view I have been given of Islamic societies/countries isn't exactly all sweetness and roses either mate.

I agree with you that western society has its problems and I also agree with you that many of these are due to overly liberal attitudes. I am not here to pretend that the west, Christianity, Judaism have all the answers right while Islam has them all wrong. I am mostly here to understand what the posters on this forum think about these issues. To get it from the horses mouth so to speak.

Believe me, I am no fan of communism either.

So you would support Islam regardless of what it tells you to do? If Islam said you should kill your wife or child, would you do that? (Apologies for the harsh example used but I think it is necessary to get to the bottom of the question)

If allah told me to kill my wife and child i'd do it, just like abraham peace be upon him did with his son. But as im not a prophet, im not able to communicate with god to receive such an order and its not legislated in the religion so its an irrelevant question. But if the creator did tell me to kill my child, wouldnt it be stupid not to? Otherwise your refuting christianity and judaism and abraham tried O sacrifice his son in the bible and torah when god asked him to in a dream.

You are aware that there has been no such things as an islamic state since 1924 when the british empire invaded the muslim lands, cut them up into tiny little countries and placed a dictator in charge of each little 'country' so modern standards are not anything to go by, most muslims want shariah and most dictators dont even let us practice some basics in the religion such as turkey has banned the hijab for all school children and governmental instututions, as has tunisia.

If we had our way, we'd be living under shariah. I guess saudi arabia is the closest thing to shariah law, and saudi is relatively prosperous as a society although still definitely not an islamic state.

Do you know if america and europe left all muslim countries and let us set Up an islamic state, we'd all leave britain to live there.

[Abu Zakariya Yahya]

So you would support Islam regardless of what it tells you to do? If Islam said you should kill your wife or child, would you do that? (Apologies for the harsh example used but I think it is necessary to get to the bottom of the question)

Islam and subsuquently the law that is derived from it is the most just and merciful law, determined by what God the creator of Mankind and all things wanted, told directly to his prophet by the way of revelation, which Includes the Book of Allah(Qur'an) and The Sunnah(the way of Muhammad ), as such it is the most complete and perfect it is impossible for us to say "well what if this or what if that", Islam is complete, and rules and regulations and punishments have been layed down, by the almighty creator knower of all things. There is no one more just or perfect then him, so his law and his religion must also be the same.
So therefore it is not possible that something that is NOT in it be speculated upon whether or not one would follow it.
However what IS included in it would be followed upon, and that would be the perfection of Gods law and way.
Also regardless of whether a person dies by lethal injection, hanging, shooting, or stoning we should realise that a few seconds after the death they won't feel any worldy pain anyways.