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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmir_85 View Post
    This is what Deobandis do best...bash anyone whos different.
    I am not a Deobandi or have any affiliation with them. I was very much into Barelwism from 1997 - 2001 but the only thing I have noticed is that they are known for 0 tolerance and takfir.

    If really what Molwi Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi ( endorsed by .. hadra lovers like Ali Jifri and other similar groups ) said is true about 4 or 5 scholars affiliated with Deoband do you think non-partisan scholars would have not caught this ?

    Molwi Ahmad Raza Khan ( May Allah forgive him for his takfeeri mentality ) was totally mistaken.

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    Brother, anyone can make a blog that is full of hate, there are millions of blogs like the one you highlighted.

    End of the day we should say we are muslim. Just because one goes to a barelvi or deoband masjid doesnt make him any better than the person that does not. I dont go around saying I am barelwi or deoband, in fact these two terms are from places in India...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmir_85 View Post

    End of the day we should say we are muslim. Just because one goes to a barelvi or deoband masjid doesnt make him any better than the person that does not. I dont go around saying I am barelwi or deoband, in fact these two terms are from places in India...
    Brother, what would you do if you are attacked by some who says you a kaafir and not true muslim and you ask the reason and he says because my maulana has said so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrghazi411 View Post
    If i am the brother you are referring to I would like to point out to you that I am no Deobandi. I have tremendous respect for them and believe they r the true advocates of Ahl Al Sunnah Wal Jammah in the Subcontintent. Bhai as one who is training to become a scholar i never make a claim unless I have proof of it because Rasullah (SAW) said that if a person declares takfir upon another then either he is lying and is the kaffir or he is telling the truth and the person he declared takfir upon is a kaffir. I wouldnt risk my neck unless i had evidence, and i showed both proof to support my views and to negate Khan's. If u look at his work there isnt a single basis for it in the Quran or the Sunnah, in fact it is the exact opposite. Instead of bashing me as being closed minded and a basher i instead encourage you to do some research. Allah Knows Bests
    Agree 100%. There is no comparison between the partisans of Ahmed Raza and the people of the Sunna. WS.
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    Asalamwaliakum brother Abu Tamim, may Allah reward you abundantly for speaking the truth and following the Sunnah, yes indeed Raza Khan played partisanship, since he couldnt par with the Deobandi or so called Wahabbi on an intellectual level, he declared them kufar. Ths is the exact same thing that the Mutazilliyah did during the Mihna, when they could not intellectually defeat Imam Ahmed ibn Hanbal (RHM) they whipped and imprisoned him. The Barelvi accuse righteous people like Sheikh Al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (RHM) of advocating anthropomorphism of Allah, when he did nothing except speak the ideas of Imam Malik, Imam Ashafi'i, Imam Ahmed ibn Hanbal, and Imam Abu Hanifah (may Allah be pleased with all of them) who said the same ideas as him in his work Fiqh Al Akbar. May Allah guide our brothers and sisters who have unfortunately followed this heretic's beliefs ameen.


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    To Brother Abul Hassan, Asalamwaliakum may Allah reward you for exposing the falsehood of the barelvi and for coming to the true path of Sunnah
    Last edited by mrghazi411; 11-02-2011 at 08:47 PM.


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    barelwis using Muhammad Yacoubi for advertisement ?



    Supposedly Ahmad Raza Khan Takfiri Mawlana and Muhammad Yacoubi drank from the same cup ?
    www.masabih.org/showthread.php?t=8751


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    Quote Originally Posted by abul_hussain View Post
    Brother, what would you do if you are attacked by some who says you a kaafir and not true muslim and you ask the reason and he says because my maulana has said so.
    I will do this:

    From Sawwar ibn Shabib al-A`raji:

    I was sitting in Ibn `Umar's house when a man came and said: "O Ibn `Umar! There are groups of people bearing witness against us and attributing to us kufr and shirk." Ibn `Umar replied: "Woe to you! Did you not say: 'La Ilaha IllAllah'?!" Whereupon the entire household began to say La Ilaha IllAllah until the house was shaking.

    ........................................

    Americans are bombing the hell out of the Muslims and here we see is the usual cat & mouse game between brelvis & deobandis - Please let it go, move on . when the common people see the violent munazaras in which open takfir is done against each other , they are forced to believe that these are our Ulemas fighting like kids ; how in the world they gonna lead us.


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    Default Re: Who was Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi and Rida Khanis

    Ahmad Raza Khan was a british agent


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    Default Re: Who was Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi ?

    They call him equivalent of Abu hanifah. Read his works to see what a joke this is. Some of his books can be found here http://www.noorulislambolton.com/blog.asp?Blog=10269

    Some of his books are so laughable.


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