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    What proofs are there that show that the necessary existent must be Merciful, Living, Wise, Powerful, Knowing etc, etc?


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    salam
    try any decent ash'ari creed text to see proof for attributes we affirm eg. al-`aqidah al-sanusiyya pg 15 onwards
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    Imam al-Zarqani said in his book Manahil al-Irfan: 'Our Scholars agreed that if a word carries 99 aspects of disbelief and one aspect of faith, it must be interpreted according to the best of meanings, which is faith'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the-truth View Post
    What proofs are there that show that the necessary existent must be Merciful, Living, Wise, Powerful, Knowing etc, etc?
    Hello,

    Excellent question - here is one of the best logical argument article of our time, IMHO. God-willing it will help answer your question and some.

    http://sunnianswers.files.wordpress....e-religion.pdf


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    Sweet links,


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    Thanks for the replies.

    Also, why is it that God must be Good and not evil?


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    I believe a good book on Islamic Theology may help, for example Al-Fiqh Al-Akbar. These types of questions would lead to a question to a question. First define what is Good and what is Bad and where did they both come from?
    Abu Sa’id (ra) said that Rasullilah (salalahi alahi wasalam) said, “Whoever says:

    Radeetu billahi rabban, wa bil-Islaami deenan, wa bi-Muhammadin rasoolan

    Jannah becomes obligatory for him (to enter).
    [Abu-Dawud]

    - Best said in Morning and Evening with "Nabiyan wa rasoolan"


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    Quote Originally Posted by the-truth View Post
    Thanks for the replies.

    Also, why is it that God must be Good and not evil?
    First of all, as the brother said, who defines good and bad.

    Secondly, the Orthodox Muslim creed is different from the Christian theology which states that God is obliged to do the best for humans. On the contrary, we affirm that God does what he wishes and is far beyond "being obliged" or "necessitated" to do anything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AbdullahbinAbdullah View Post
    First of all, as the brother said, who defines good and bad.
    We do.

    Secondly, the Orthodox Muslim creed is different from the Christian theology which states that God is obliged to do the best for humans. On the contrary, we affirm that God does what he wishes and is far beyond "being obliged" or "necessitated" to do anything.
    So He can act evil [as per what we believe evil to be]?


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    Quote Originally Posted by the-truth View Post
    We do.



    So He can act evil [as per what we believe evil to be]?
    We may try to define things, however, we do not have the authority to define all things. This is currently a big debate within ethics also, as the naturalists try to find an ontological ground for good and evil for their stumbling morality system; however, most intellectuals even on their side agree that Human kind does not have the ontological authority to define good and evil (they may say we have the Legal authority to do so).

    As for the acts of God, we do not define them as Good and Evil, as those are terms applied to the acts of Human beings. Rather, if we do talk about actions of God usually the terms mercy and justice are employed.

    And God knows best.


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    Quote Originally Posted by the-truth View Post
    What proofs are there that show that the necessary existent must be Merciful, Living, Wise, Powerful, Knowing etc, etc?
    Dear Brother,

    No proofs are required. Allah(SWT) Himself Says so.

    Brotherly yours
    farook


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