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    Default Classical Logic (Mantiq) texts?

    (If I have posted this in the wrong forum, I request that one of the mods move it to its appropriate place).

    As salaamu alaykum.

    What are the names of some of the classics in the study of mantiq in traditional Islamic circles?

    I would like to get a list of these texts going here along with some information about when they were authored, by whom, etc. and whether or not they are still in use today.

    If some of my more knowledgeable brothers and sisters could contribute to this thread, especially our respected resident Ulema, I would appreciate it insha'allah.

    Jazakallahu Khair.

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    One of the good work on this subject is by Hafiz Jalal al-Din Suyuti who died in 911 AH and the name of the book is Sawn al-mantiq wa al-kalam `an fann al-mantiq wa al-kalam "Manual of logic and dialectic theology"


    http://www.alkutubiyeen.net/image.ph...t&image_id=515

    http://www.neelwafurat.com/itempage....8&search=books


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    Maybe you should tell him that the book you mentioned is against Mantiq.

    The standrd books of Mantiq (depending on the location where they are taught) include:
    1. al-Akhdari's Sullam with its commentaries
    2. Isaghuji with a good commentary, such as Mughni al-tullab
    3. Shamsiya
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    Default Re: Classical Logic (Mantiq) texts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ibn Ajibah View Post
    Maybe you should tell him that the book you mentioned is against Mantiq.

    The standrd books of Mantiq (depending on the location where they are taught) include:
    1. al-Akhdari's Sullam with its commentaries
    2. Isaghuji with a good commentary, such as Mughni al-tullab
    3. Shamsiya
    If you were to list the above, roughly, in order of difficulty from least to most difficult, how would you arrange these texts?

    Furthermore, you mentioned that the what books are used depends on one's location, so in what location(s) are these texts standard?


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    The Dars e Nizami usually instructs in the following:

    Mirqat

    Sharh Tahzib

    Qutbi

    Sullam ul Uloom

    I think there's one or two others besides the above and some more that are not taught anymore like Sadra and Shams Baazigha (I think). Allah knows best.
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    the knowledge of things not known to him"
    (Fazaa'il-e-A'maal, Virtues of the Holy Qur'an, Part 1, under Hadith 8)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali al-Hanafi View Post


    The Dars e Nizami usually instructs in the following:

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    Sullam ul Uloom

    ....
    Is this the same as "al-Sullam al-Munawraq" written by al-Akhdari?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunni_Student786 View Post
    Is this the same as "al-Sullam al-Munawraq" written by al-Akhdari?
    Sullam ul Uloom is by Muhibbillah Bihari (1119 Hijri). Sullam al-Munawraq is a poem by al-Akhdari, if i'm not mistaken it's based on Isagoji, and is very famous in the arab lands. One of the famous commentaries on Sullam is by Damanhuri a Azhari shaykh, it's entitled "Idah ul Mubham Sharh Ma'ani as-Sullam". (can be found online).

    Durus on Sullam al-Munawraq by Shaykh Hassan al-Hindi - http://www.alhindy.net/science/sulam/sulam.php

    Shaykh Dido's commentary on Sullam - http://www.archive.org/details/deedo-sulam


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zubair View Post
    ....Sullam al-Munawraq is a poem by al-Akhdari, if i'm not mistaken it's based on Isagoji, and is very famous in the arab lands. ... (can be found online).
    It is also famous in Africa, Indonesia, and Malaysia.

    Jazakallahu Khair for the info as well.

    Everyone, keep the contributions coming insha'allah.


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    Default Re: Classical Logic (Mantiq) texts?

    You cannot leave out Hujjatul Islam Imam al Ghazali (ra)

    Mi'yarul Ilm fi fannil Mantiq
    Al Qistasul Mustaqim

    Currently we are studying these 2 text at Shariah Program and they are amazing!!!
    On weekends we are studying Mirqaat which itself is very useful.

    Mantiq is a challenging subject and requires a competent teacher to explain the ibarat.

    Imam Ghazali books can be downloaded from the following site http://www.ghazali.org/
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    mospike you are actually one of the few users who seemed to have progressed ilm-wise throughout the years in this forum. I mean your posts seem to indicate that. The other person is goldiali saheb who is from Chicago but studying in Egypt I think? Anyway keep up the good work. When I see laypeople like yourself studying I get really happy. Most muslims don't have the dedication to do things long term. They don't have steadfastness. An arabic class will start with 60 people. After a few weeks 10 will stay. After 1 year maybe 2 people will stay. That is one thing about muslims. We need to be dedicated. We always delay. ALLAH give me the taufiq as I am the biggest culprit. Life is going so fast...yet what have we achieved...


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