Aalima courses in India?

[UmHasan]

Hadhrat Moulana Hashim sahab of Darul Uloom bury is only the principal of the Boy's madrassah and not the girls.

I know that. I meant he's the muhtamim of joghwar girls madrasah, not DU, Bury.

EDIT (14/09/10): Sis Muminah is right. He has patron status there only.

[azimshaikh]

Madrasa Islahul Banat at Bangalore (INDIA) is a very good Madarsa exclusively for girls. My friends wife is as ex- student of this madarsa. He recommends it.

[muminah]

I know that. I meant he's the muhtamim of joghwar girls madrasah, not DU, Bury.

No, I meant he isn't the Muhtamim of Joghwar's girls madrassah, he is only the muhtamim of the Jogwar's boys madrassah.

[UmHasan]

No, I meant he isn't the Muhtamim of Joghwar's girls madrassah, he is only the muhtamim of the Jogwar's boys madrassah.

He now holds patron status only and is not involved the direct running of the madrasah as he lives in Darul Uloom Bury now. Khayr, wallahu a'lam.

[binte sulaiman]

I only just saw that you wrote your age was 20 and upon that I concur with the above post. I apologise if my advice is out of line but at this age it may be best if you consider marriage first. Find someone with the same aspirations as you with regards to studying, or someone who you can learn from. Once you are married you can settle some place where you can study deen further or travel with him if need be.

I don't want to hijack this thread I just have a question for Appa Soupy.
Appa, I am planning to go to a madrasah as soon as I finish high school InshAllah. I'm going to gr.11 this year and a part time aalimah course is taking place nearby. After Ramadhan I plan on joining it, but after I finish high school I want to go to an actual Darul Uloom. So that means I'll have finished the first two years of an aalimah course here. The main reason I wants to go is because of the environment. I'll be in a total Islamic environment. No distractions etc. I can devote myself completely to studying. I have a madrasah in mind. It's Madrasah Mueenul Islam in SA. What I want to ask is well you recommended her to get married because she's 20 and by the time she finishes she'll be 25 or so but If I start it when I'm 18, and I finish when I'm 22, that's o.k. right? and I have a question regarding the madrasah, have you ever been there? and if so what do you know/think about it? Also I'm bayat to a shaykh...how would i contact him if i live in a madrasah? Do they allow you to use your email? the shaykh in question lives in SA so if I go there if not email could I write a letter?

[UmHasan]

I would usually have responded to questions like this in the sisters only section, but as you don’t have access yet.....

I’m a firm believer in marrying young. I know others may disagree vehemently with me on this on and say wait till your older, mature, wiser etc but I do think that the prime age for a girl to marry is between the ages of 18 and 21. Delaying marriage without good reason can lead to many complications later on. A woman conceives better at a younger age, she is more adaptable to the ways of her in laws, she is young enough to take aboard criticism/ advice from new family members without feeling as though she is being treated like a child and she is at an age where she hasn’t developed habits that are so ingrained she finds it difficult to change.

It’s also a time when a girl romanticises about someone to share her life live so having someone to fall in love with will prevent unlawful interaction with males.

I do think there is something very sweet about a young girl in the opening years of her adult life marrying a young man in the early years of his adulthood and both of them learning to grow up together. The ingredients for a beautiful bond. Besides, you will have a much better chance of marrying a suitable partner if you marry young. Once a girl reaches a certain age, society tends to overlook you. You also get fussier and less reluctant to settle for anything less than Mr Perfect.

I married at 18 and knew very little about my husband. About five things in total, but all of them were qualities I was looking for. If I have waited till I was older, I would definitely have come to the first meeting with a list of 200 questions like the ones mentioned elsewhere on this site. And then I would have missed my chance of finding my soul mate.

Apologies, for such a long answer to a simple question, but I am trying to convey that I do think that you should not delay marriage to study. If you are 18 now you’ll need 5 years at least. That will make you 23, which is just about okay but anything more than that would not be ideal. It may be better to try and find something local or something that you can do whilst being married. Is that possible?

Having said that, I do understand what you are saying about being in a completely Islamic environment as opposed to a part time Darul uloom. I see a marked difference between those who study part time and come back home and those who leave home and all its distractions behind to learn to adapt to a life completely devoted to studying. It is difficult to get the balance right.

I have not much knowledge of the Madrasah that you mention. The only SA girls Madrasah I know anything about is Zakariyyah Park as the Shaykhul Hadeeth there and his family are close family friends of ours and I have visited there. Maybe our South African members can help there.

I don’t think there should be any problem in you continuing to correspond with your shaykh through letters whilst in Madrasah, although I doubt email would be allowed. However, each Madrasah will have their own rules regarding this and it is best to ask the madrasah of your choice of their policy on this. It is most likely they will read all outgoing and incoming mail though.

[binte sulaiman]

Aapa, you misunderstood. I'm 16 right now. There is a part time aalimah course going on which I can do without having to quit school. That means by the time I'm 18 I'll have finished the first 2 years of the aalimah course. After I am 18 I want to go to a Darul Uloom (this way I finish high school and I still get the DU experience). I don't know if the madrassah will allow me to join in the third year, if they do, I'll be 20 when I finish. And if I start all over- from first year- then I'll be 22. My birthday happens to be in the summer months. Also Madrassa Mueenul Islam is the girl's madrassah in Zakariyyah Park, Lenasia acoording to this thread.
Madrassa Mueenul Islam Information Thread
Are you talking about Shaykhul Hadith Hadhrat Maulana Abu Uwais Ibn Isaa who is originally from Rander, India? the Khalifa of Hadhrat Maulana Lutf-ul-Allah?

[binte sulaiman]

I will inshAllah soon get access to the sister's section. I actually wanted to ask this question there, but I wasn't sure exactly when that would be so I asked it here.

[UmHasan]

Ah, okay. So you do the first 2 years from home going to a part time madrasah and then then next 4 years from Zakariyyah Park, if they allow you to continue form where you left off? That seems ideal to me. I think the best time for a girl to study the course is to start from the age of 15-16. That way she'll have more of an understanding of the intricate masaail when she reaches the final years.

Depending on the quality of teaching at the part time place, it might be a good idea to try and get the first 3 years done at home. That way, in the one year after you finish school you can study from home and learn some housekeeping, cooking skills etc from your mum before you go on to madrasah. Although contrary to popular belief, they will teach you those skills at madrasah too. At our madrasah we had no cleaners. All cleaning, cooking etc was done by the girls, so we picked up all the tricks of the trade when it came to mass cleaning, cooking pots of food for 300, making chappattis etc (which is a skill out desi mother in laws measure us by ) as we went along. I don't think it works that way in the SA madaaris though. Nearly everyone in SA has maids.

Are you talking about Shaykhul Hadith Hadhrat Maulana Abu Uwais Ibn Isaa who is originally from Rander, India? the Khalifa of Hadhrat Maulana Lutf-ul-Allah?

Yes. Hadhrat Moulana Yaqub sahab. My husband has been close to him from childhood and he has shown much shafqat to me over the years. Allah bless him and grant him shifaa kaamil.

[binte sulaiman]

Ah, okay. So you do the first 2 years from home going to a part time madrasah and then then next 4 years from Zakariyyah Park, if they allow you to continue form where you left off? That seems ideal to me. I think the best time for a girl to study the course is to start from the age of 15-16. That way she'll have more of an understanding of the intricate masaail when she reaches the final years.

Yes

Depending on the quality of teaching at the part time place, it might be a good idea to try and get the first 3 years done at home. That way, in the one year after you finish school you can study from home and learn some housekeeping, cooking skills etc from your mum before you go on to madrasah. Although contrary to popular belief, they will teach you those skills at madrasah too. At our madrasah we had no cleaners. All cleaning, cooking etc was done by the girls, so we picked up all the tricks of the trade when it came to mass cleaning, cooking pots of food for 300, making chappattis etc (which is a skill out desi mother in laws measure us by ) as we went along. I don't think it works that way in the SA madaaris though. Nearly everyone in SA has maids.

As for the quality, it's quite good. Have you ever been to Toronto? I'd tell you the name of the maulana I think is teaching, but I don't know if you'd know him. Maulana Qasim of Jame Abu Bakr Masjid?? Do you know him? Aapa, if you knew my mom you wouldn't be asking this question. I'm already an expert when it comes to cleaning. As for cooking the only thing I don't know how to do is make roti . And that my mom's planning on teaching me quite soon. Did you go to an Indian madrasah? If so, which one? Most of the people around me have been to Mallegoan and I've never heard anything but praises for it.

Yes. Hadhrat Moulana Yaqub sahab. My husband has been close to him from childhood and he has shown much shafqat to me over the years. Allah bless him and grant him shifaa kaamil.

Ameen. You know you've got me thinking I could possibly know you. By any chance, are you from Rander? In a post somewhere on SF I remember you mentioning Hadhrat Ajmeri Rahimahullah. Not many people know of him.