Tawheed differences with Deobandis and Brewlis groups

**shylaah** · 03-08-2010, 01:27 PM

Assalamo alikum

Can someone clearly outline what is the differences in tawheed beliefs between these two groups.

Thanks, sister Shylaah.

**shylaah** · 03-08-2010, 01:30 PM

For instance the deobandis say from the quote

there are four degrees (maratib) of tawhid:

1. The first is the restriction of necessary existence (wujub al-wujud) to Him, may He be exalted, for none other than He is Necessary.
2. The second is the restriction of the creation (khalq) of the Throne, the Heavens, the earth, and the rest of the substances to Him, may he be Exalted. These two levels were not discussed in the divine scriptures, and the Arab polytheists, Jews, and Christians did not disagree about them; rather Magnificent Qur’an asserted that these were premises accepted by them.[4]
3. The third is restricting the management (tadbir) of the heavens and earth and what lies between them to Him, may He be Exalted.
4. The fourth is that no one besides Him is entitled to be worshiped (’ibadah), and these two are intertwined and inseparable due to a natural connection between them.

http://deoband.org/2010/05/aqida/all...-unity-of-god/

How does it differ to the Brewli's beliefs in Tawheed?

**Ansari** · 03-08-2010, 01:32 PM

Use the search engine. Many topics about this issue.

**shylaah** · 03-08-2010, 01:41 PM

walikom assalaam,
I am reading on some other threads pulled up now.

Thanks.

**SASLAMS** · 03-08-2010, 01:56 PM

there shouldnt be a difference. maybe some will tell about the differences in aqaaid though.

**shylaah** · 03-08-2010, 04:01 PM

Sorry, can someone clarify. I don't really understand. Do Deobandis generally believe that the prophet pbuh had knowledge of the unseen to some point, a certain limit or is it something dismissed totally? I understand from what is quoted that the Brewlis believe that the prophet pbuh has complete knowledge of the unseen.

The beliefs that the Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) had the knowledge of the complete unseen (‘ilm al-ghayb kulli) as held by Ahmad Rada Khan and that the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) was entrusted with all powers of disposition are not held by the Ash’aris and Maturidis, has not been mentioned by anyone in the books of ‘aqa’id, and is not mentioned in any way in their books. Both these issues are clearly against the Qur’an and hadiths; these have been created by the Barelwis. If anyone regards the Barelwi sect to be from among the Ahl al-Sunnah wa ‘l-Jama’ah, then this is his clear error.

http://deoband.org/2010/07/aqida/dev...ootnote_3_1460

they have added four fundamental issues into beliefs: The issues of nur wa bashr,[3] complete ‘ilm al-ghayb,[4] hadhir and nadhir[5] and mukhtar al-kull.[6] And in the issues (masa’il) that are of a peripheral nature (furu’i): calling those apart from Allah, prostrating in front of graves, circumambulating (tawaf) graves, making vows to those apart from Allah, presenting offerings to graves, mawlid, ta’ziyyah and many other things that they have created and which are evidently bid’ah. In Tasawwuf they have also mixed many un-Islamic elements like qawwali, ecstasy (wajd) and spiritual music (sima’) etc.

http://deoband.org/2010/07/aqida/dev...ootnote_3_1460