can you be a doctor and alima?

[hijabiforever]

salaams
If i want to learn to be an alima and be a doctor as well is that possible? I know someone who is a doctor and she thinks this is not really possible and doesn't know anyone like this. So I am wondering is there anyone who has done this or knows someone who has.
Either they went to madresa first and became an alima or became a doctor then became an alima. I don't see why someone cant do it if they really have the desire coz you can help people in the deen and dunya, but she says i dont understand and also that darul ulooms don't have the right standard of education and that if someone went to university afterwards they wouldn't fit in, and wouldn't be able to follow deen properly, so i want to prove that she is wrong, and you can be an alima and learn deen then study too and wear islamic clothes jubba etc. (i know purdah is not allowed but some alimas don't wear purdah so it's not that bad i think).
thank you, jazakallah.

[hijabiforever]

ps- i know you can be hafiza but that is different.

[AbdullahbinAbdullah]

Mashallah, you have high aims and may Allah Ta3ala fulfill those.

Although I have a couple of things which I would ask my self:

1. What does it mean to be an Aalima? Is it that people regard one as such, or that people say "look she/he follows Islam so completely" or "mashallah, she is so knowledgeable" or to give lecture and right fatwas e.t.c? or is it a degree a course an Ijazah?
2. One can practice Islam even without being an Aalima
3. Anything that is a reaction does not last (generally speaking) This choice should not be a reaction, but be a conscious choice rising from a internal drive for the sake of The One who is The Truth

[Colonel_Hardstone]

salaams
If i want to learn to be an alima and be a doctor as well is that possible? I know someone who is a doctor and she thinks this is not really possible and doesn't know anyone like this. So I am wondering is there anyone who has done this or knows someone who has.
Either they went to madresa first and became an alima or became a doctor then became an alima. I don't see why someone cant do it if they really have the desire coz you can help people in the deen and dunya, but she says i dont understand and also that darul ulooms don't have the right standard of education and that if someone went to university afterwards they wouldn't fit in, and wouldn't be able to follow deen properly, so i want to prove that she is wrong, and you can be an alima and learn deen then study too and wear islamic clothes jubba etc. (i know purdah is not allowed but some alimas don't wear purdah so it's not that bad i think).
thank you, jazakallah.

Doctor as in Medical Doctor or Phd Doctor?

[laystur]

Yes, you can be both.

[Nomadic]

If an Alim can be doctor, business men and specilise in ohter wordly subject, it is good for the ummah as long as the islamic ethics are adhered to and being implemented through them.
I think teaching and being doctor is a good choice for an Alimah. Mufti Zubair Butt a lecterer at university and sits in contemporary Sharaih Advisory panel also do programs for muslim doctors educating them in ethics etc.
Rarely one person can master both at the same time. One has to finish one course first and then move on to the other course. On a side issue many of the so called islamic school is really not islamic per say but rather simply provides a muslim environment with some basic subject where as Darul ulm focuses predominanatly on islamic science. Some one who has no idea of the Islamic syllabus often thinks darul ulm can do both. The subject matter is often more demanding then worldy degrees. It is like saying A Level strudent should also be studying degree in engineering.
However inorder to be relevent, some minor modern social science or subject should be introduced. Shaikh Abdul Hakim Murad has started this with some alims now sitting with him.
Masalam

[suleimanibnsalim]

In Syria, children are tested, and by law the most clever are signed up to be doctors, the engneers etc until the least brilliant people are signed of to study shari`ah. This is extremely bad for the state of the `ulama. However, people like Shaykh Samir an-Nas, a doctor, is an `alim, faqih, muhaddith and qari', who has mastered the 10 qira'aat and teaches al-hidayah at ma`had al-fath, and tasawwuf texts through the night, do exist, alhamduliLlah. Perhaps people like him may serve as an inspiration, though you should question your intentions.

was-salam

[hijabiforever]

Yes I mean medical doctor not doctor with a Phd
Alima means someone who went to darululoom and becomes and alima, they study quran and Islamic kitabs. I'm not saying everyone has to be an alima, but it is also a good thing to become. I know lots of people i ask say that you can do both and oh that's really good, but when I ask if they know anyone, they all say no, or they know a doctor who is a hafiz or goes to jamat. So somebody must have done it in all of England?

[Colonel_Hardstone]

Yes I mean medical doctor not doctor with a Phd
Alima means someone who went to darululoom and becomes and alima, they study quran and Islamic kitabs. I'm not saying everyone has to be an alima, but it is also a good thing to become. I know lots of people i ask say that you can do both and oh that's really good, but when I ask if they know anyone, they all say no, or they know a doctor who is a hafiz or goes to jamat. So somebody must have done it in all of England?

There are two kinds of "Alims" amongst men

1) Ones who are going to teach after learning

2) Ones who study a cut-down curriculum so its enough for their own rectification and Islaah and some of them are professionals or adult-students etc.

Which track do you want to take?

[muminah]

Yes of course you can! I know someone who did Alima course whilst at school/college, and then read medicine at university.