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    Default Walid ibn Mughira?

    I need to know if he was a sahabi? Did he convert to Islam?


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    Default Re: Walid ibn Mughira?

    Yes he was and yes he did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jive View Post
    I need to know if he was a sahabi? Did he convert to Islam?
    I just finished reading the biography of Kahlid bin Walid RA, and I dont beleive his father converted to Islam - by the time Khalid(RA) converted, his father ahd already died.

    Ill look through the book and get some exact dates for you inshaAllah.

    maybe Im wrong though.


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    Default Re: Walid ibn Mughira?

    I got the answer, he died at badr as a non muslim.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partici...Battle_of_Badr


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    Default Re: Walid ibn Mughira?

    Quote Originally Posted by jive View Post
    I got the answer, he died at badr as a non muslim.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partici...Battle_of_Badr
    and how much reliable is wikipedia ?

    and are we muslims going to take answers from a kuffar website regarding a person being sahabi or not ?

    May Allah swt guide is all

    Ameen


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    Default Re: Walid ibn Mughira?

    I posted that link after looking up some Islamic sources which confirm it. The link has errors e.g. it says that Bilaal (r) was ansari!


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    Default Re: Walid ibn Mughira?

    So could some of our resident Ulema shed light on this?


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    The biography I read was
    "Sword of Allah" by Gen. A.I.Akram - he is not an Alim, and the biography focuses on what little is kown of Khalid bin walids(RA0 life and the military stratagems he used in battle.

    Here are some excerpts from the book regarding Walid ibn Mughira:

    Abu Sufyan and Al Waleed(Wlaid ibn Mughira) were men of dignity and self-respect. While they
    directed the opposition against the Prophet, they did not demean themselves
    by resorting to violence or abuse. Al Waleed's initial reaction was one of
    ruffled dignity. "Is the prophethood to be bestowed on Muhammad," he
    exploded, "while I, the greatest of the Quraish and their elder, am to get
    nothing? And there is Abu Masud, the chief of the Saqeef. Surely he and I are
    the greatest of the two towns."3 This grand old man lived in a world of his
    own where everything depended on nobility of birth and rank. He was, of
    course, being unfair to the Prophet, for the line of Muhammad joined his own
    six generations back, and the family of Muhammad was no less noble than
    his own. In fact, in recent history the Prophet's family had acquired greater
    prominence than any other family in Makkah. The Prophet's grandfather,
    Abdul Muttalib, had been the chief of all the Quraish in Makkah.
    3. Ibn Hisham: Vol. 1, p. 361.Quran 95:1-5
    According to Ibn Hisham, it was in connection with this statement of Al
    Waleed that the Quranic verse was revealed: And they say: If only this
    Quran had been revealed to some man from the, two great towns!
    [Quran 43:31]. The two towns were Makkah and Taif. And another Quranic
    revelation believed to have referred to Al Waleed who, as we have stated in
    the preceding chapter, was known by the title of Al Waheed (the Unique),
    reads: Leave Me (to deal) with him whom I created Waheed; and
    bestowed upon him ample means; and sons abiding in his presence;
    and made (life) smooth for him. Yet he desires that I should give
    more. Nay, for lo, he has been stubborn about Our revelations. On
    him I shall impose a fearful doom…Then he looked; then he frowned
    and showed displeasure; then he turned away in pride and said: This
    is nothing but magic from of old; this is nothing but the speech of a
    man. Him shall I fling into the fire: [Quran 74: 11-17 and 21-26]
    The delegation of the Quraish (Walid ibn Mughira, Abu Sufyan, Abul Hakam) now approached Abu Talib and said "O Abu
    Talib! You are our leader and the best among us. You have seen what the
    son of your brother is doing to our religion. He abuses our gods. He vilifies
    our faith and the faith of our fathers. You are one of us in our faith. Either
    stop Muhammad from such activities or permit us to deal with him as we
    wish." 3. Ibn Hisham: Vol. 1, p. 265; Ibn Sad: p. 186.
    Three months after the Prophet's departure from Makkah, Al Waleed called
    his sons to his death bed, He knew that he was dying. "O my sons!" he said.
    "There are three tasks that I bequeath you. See that you do-not foil in
    carrying them out. The first is my blood feud with the Khuza'a. See that you
    take revenge. By Allah, I know that they are not guilty, but I fear that you
    will be blamed after this day. The second is my money, accruing from
    interest due to me, with the Saqeef, See that you get it back. Thirdly, I am
    due compensation or blood from Abu Uzeihar."1 This bad man married the
    daughter of Al Waleed and then put her away from him without returning her
    to her father's home.
    Having made these bequests, Al Waleed died. He was buried with all the
    honour due to a great chief, a respected elder and a noble son of the
    Quraish.1. Ibn Hisham: Vol. 1, pp. 410-411.
    at the time of his death Neither Khalid (RA) nor his older brother Hasham ibn Al Walid had embraced Islam when their father passed, and all three actively oppressed and ridiculed the Muslims.

    Most importantly note this ayat which, according to ibn Hisham, was revealed by Allah in response to Wleeds statements:
    Leave Me (to deal) with him whom I created Waheed; and
    bestowed upon him ample means; and sons abiding in his presence;
    and made (life) smooth for him. Yet he desires that I should give
    more. Nay, for lo, he has been stubborn about Our revelations. On
    him I shall impose a fearful doom…Then he looked; then he frowned
    and showed displeasure; then he turned away in pride and said: This
    is nothing but magic from of old; this is nothing but the speech of a
    man. Him shall I fling into the fire: [Quran 74: 11-17 and 21-26


    If this revealtion was directed at him, then surley Allah keeps His word, and has "(flung) him into the fire"
    Last edited by MujahidAbdullah; 01-09-2010 at 05:37 AM.


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