The Truth about the Number of Rak‘ahs in Tarawih

[outofplace_12]

Looking at the authenticity of the Ahadiths ,
the Prophet -Peace Be Upon Him- Prayed only 11 Rak'ats and on the other narration 13 Rak'ats.
Though the Salafs and the people who came after his generations added some Rak'ats and as we can see now its already 20.
Are they doing Bid'Ah?
No , i believe that they know and understand more than we do the proofs.
Still the only Hadith that they hold on to is " SALATUL-LAYL MATHNA MATHNA" << Night Prayers are 2 and 2 <<
Also , it is not mentioned that theres a limit in the Rak'ats of Tarawih.
and as we all know TARAWIH since considered as night prayers.
And to my observation , you can only find 20 Rak'ats in the 2Masjids ,Haram-al-Makki and MADANI.
Im referring to the Masjids here in Saudi Arabia.

About the Athars and the opinion of the Salafs and the generations that came after them,
it only makes things handy but its not a form of a proof to hold on to.
"Qawlur-rijal yustadallu laha la yustadallu biha"
Words of men are treated as a guide not as a proof.

At the END sunnah is still the best which is 11 and 13 and i acknowledge the 20 for the stated HADITH..

--Just saying my part .. ALLAH Knows Best.

[Usman]

Looking at the authenticity of the Ahadiths ,
the Prophet -Peace Be Upon Him- Prayed only 11 Rak'ats and on the other narration 13 Rak'ats.
Though the Salafs and the people who came after his generations added some Rak'ats and as we can see now its already 20.
Are they doing Bid'Ah?
No , i believe that they know and understand more than we do the proofs.
Still the only Hadith that they hold on to is " SALATUL-LAYL MATHNA MATHNA" << Night Prayers are 2 and 2 <<
Also , it is not mentioned that theres a limit in the Rak'ats of Tarawih.
and as we all know TARAWIH since considered as night prayers.
And to my observation , you can only find 20 Rak'ats in the 2Masjids ,Haram-al-Makki and MADANI.
Im referring to the Masjids here in Saudi Arabia.

About the Athars and the opinion of the Salafs and the generations that came after them,
it only makes things handy but its not a form of a proof to hold on to.
"Qawlur-rijal yustadallu laha la yustadallu biha"
Words of men are treated as a guide not as a proof.

At the END sunnah is still the best which is 11 and 13 and i acknowledge the 20 for the stated HADITH..

--Just saying my part .. ALLAH Knows Best.

Thanks for sharing your part, yet, your part means nothing in Islam. I've already mentioned, as other brothers have, that Taraweeh cannot be 8 rakaat. What you've mentioned is "11" or "13" accounts to Tahajjud, because there's mention of Ramadhan as well as Ghayr Ramadhan. Taraweeh is recited only "IN RAMADHAN" and not outside of it. There are various proofs that Taraweeh is not the same as tahajjud as well, but I won't go into it.

Secondly, Taraweeh is Sunnah, Tahajjud is Nafil ( Wa minal layli Tahajjad bihi nafilah ), while as per hadeeth, Qiyaam in Ramadhan is "Sunnah".

Ironically, you mention 11 and 13 against 20, while 11 and 13 include witr, while 20 doesn't. Means, something is wrong with your understanding over here as well. Since you're already accepting that you don't have as much understanding of the Texts as the salaf, yet consider yourself better, I won't go into further details of that as well. I suggest, you listen to the audio I've posted and look more closely.

You mentioned you've lived in Saudia, well, in that case, please explain the masdar of Taraweeh. For your ease, here's a hint :

Tarweeha (1)
Tarweehatayn/Tarweehataan (2)
Taraweeh /Tarweehaat ( 3 - 10 )

Therefore Taraweeh could be between 12 - 40 . Sine there's no proof of 12 or 40, rather 20, therefore Taraweeh is 20. We are not supposed to follow Shaadh or Mudhtarib narrations opposed to what has gained Talaqqee bil Qubool from the Ummah and the four madhabs. Of course, since Saudis are full of arrogance and believe they know about Islam better than the Salaf, yet claim to be Salafis, I won't blame you if you lean towards their understanding and leave the salaf alone in this, even Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullah) and Ibn Abdul Wahab (Rahimahullah ).

Ramadhan is almost over, and Taraweeh are almost finished too. If you back hurts, feel free to flee after 8, but don't blame it on the Salaf that they changed the Prophet's (SAAW) sunnah.

wasSalaam

[speedy]

This issue is clearest example of how wrong these salafis are. It is so clear what is understanding of the salaf and and whole ummah in this matter yet they claim to understand which hadith to apply better than even the Sahabah.

[a_muslim]

Who is Shaykh Mohammed H. Abasoomer???

anybody

[Usman]

anybody

As far as I remember, he's one of the Muftis who answer in Askimam.org website, probably from Darululoom Azaadville or In'amiyah ( Camperdown ).

[a_muslim]

As far as I remember, he's one of the Muftis who answer in Askimam.org website, probably from Darululoom Azaadville or In'amiyah ( Camperdown ).

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...roon-Abassomer

[e-iqra]

Assalamu Alikum

dear brothers plz visit this link to read book about status of 20 taraweeh.

wassalaam