Need help from brothers to solve my situation

[saqfu]

i still havent done bayt on his hand yet ... i was planning to when i went to islamabad a couple of months back when my mother passed away ... but somehow i couldnt go to chakwal albeit being an hour drive away ... brother i need this info how do i give out my email??

brother my email is [clip]. quickly email right now before the moderators delete my email

[mujahid101]

done

[xs11ax]

Salam i need more info for whats wrong with SH. AKram Awan?? i tried looking online and on the forum but couldnt find much... can you put me in a right direction plz

ask the mods for my email address.

i was part of the owaisi group in the UK but had not given bayat to akram awan. i was with them about 2 years on and off and did not get too much involved. before i left i was quite active with them and that is when started to realise things were not all that great.

akram awan is not an alim in the way that most would understand. i.e he has not completed any studies under other ulama. by his own admission, he claims that he has gained ilm through spiritual means from the unseen. this claim does not give him the title of moulana.

he does not pray his salaat with jamaat and claims to pray in his office. anyone who goes to minara can see this for themselves. his excuse is that he needs to be safe as he has been targeted for assasination. but he does not have a problem roaming around amongst crowds of people on other occasions.

he smokes a pipe which according to some hanafi ulama, it is haram or makrooh in the least. would a true sufi smoke? would a true sufi have the need to smoke? anyway, he claims that a hakeem told him to smoke as it is meant to be good for his health.

he has a portrait of himself hanging in his office wall which was supposedly drawn by a mureed. drawing pictures of animate objects is haram and displaying them causes the angels of mercy to abandon that place.

he and his mureeds are very lazy when it comes to the sunnah. they sit at tables in the khanqah and abandon the sunnah of eating on the floor. a true sufi would want to hold onto even the smallest of sunnahs. also, not only do they not care if their trousers hang below the ankles but they show anger when other people do! a brother from the forum was in munara and had his trousers above his ankles. some mureeds got very angry at this and ridiculed him in front of everyone!

they give ranks to people like candy as long as you are a blind docile follower. it does not matter about the state of your iman. his bodyguard does not even have a beard and has been seen missing his salaat by a friend who visited munara. but the bodyguard has been given the rank of fanah fil rasool and supposedly sits with the Prophet when doing muraqabah. akram awan's personal cameraman also works at weddings recording the celebrations even amongst non-mehram women and earns a haram livelyhood which he eats from and also feeds his family. he is also supposed to be fana fil rasool.

the top mureeds in UK used to be friends of mine before i left them. they are also meant to be fana this and fanah that. every week after zikr they all have a mass gheebat session doing gheebat of other majaz and mureeds as well yet they claim to be in the company of the Prophet when doing muraqabah.

oh yeah, their amir of my local area was chosen because some fana this fana that brothers saw through kashf that he was very advanced. i have known this guy as a friend for many years. this guy is a druggie. i have seen him buying drugs twice and he also admitted to me that he smokes drugs. this is their amir chosen through kashf because of his piety.

these are only some of the things. the things that i have mentioned can be checked and verified. i know other things as well but will not mention them as they cannot be checked.

oh one more thing that will need checking. i have a translation of a small part of Shah Nimatullah's (ra) prophecy. it was given by the owaisi guys. in the translation it mentions the name awan. they say that this is about akram awan. but i have heard that this is a fabriation and that awan is not found in the original prophecies of Shah Nimatullah (ra). it would be good if someone can check this.

[saqfu]

done

r u reffering to me because i havent receieved an email from u

[saqfu]

xs11xa how do u contact the moderators

[xs11ax]

xs11xa how do u contact the moderators

i have tried emailing before but never get a response.

best way is to create a thread in comments.

[mujahid101]

r u reffering to me because i havent receieved an email from u

yeah i did ... mine is[clip]

[mujahid101]

ask the mods for my email address.

i was part of the owaisi group in the UK but had not given bayat to akram awan. i was with them about 2 years on and off and did not get too much involved. before i left i was quite active with them and that is when started to realise things were not all that great.

akram awan is not an alim in the way that most would understand. i.e he has not completed any studies under other ulama. by his own admission, he claims that he has gained ilm through spiritual means from the unseen. this claim does not give him the title of moulana.

he does not pray his salaat with jamaat and claims to pray in his office. anyone who goes to minara can see this for themselves. his excuse is that he needs to be safe as he has been targeted for assasination. but he does not have a problem roaming around amongst crowds of people on other occasions.

he smokes a pipe which according to some hanafi ulama, it is haram or makrooh in the least. would a true sufi smoke? would a true sufi have the need to smoke? anyway, he claims that a hakeem told him to smoke as it is meant to be good for his health.

he has a portrait of himself hanging in his office wall which was supposedly drawn by a mureed. drawing pictures of animate objects is haram and displaying them causes the angels of mercy to abandon that place.

he and his mureeds are very lazy when it comes to the sunnah. they sit at tables in the khanqah and abandon the sunnah of eating on the floor. a true sufi would want to hold onto even the smallest of sunnahs. also, not only do they not care if their trousers hang below the ankles but they show anger when other people do! a brother from the forum was in munara and had his trousers above his ankles. some mureeds got very angry at this and ridiculed him in front of everyone!

they give ranks to people like candy as long as you are a blind docile follower. it does not matter about the state of your iman. his bodyguard does not even have a beard and has been seen missing his salaat by a friend who visited munara. but the bodyguard has been given the rank of fanah fil rasool and supposedly sits with the Prophet when doing muraqabah. akram awan's personal cameraman also works at weddings recording the celebrations even amongst non-mehram women and earns a haram livelyhood which he eats from and also feeds his family. he is also supposed to be fana fil rasool.

the top mureeds in UK used to be friends of mine before i left them. they are also meant to be fana this and fanah that. every week after zikr they all have a mass gheebat session doing gheebat of other majaz and mureeds as well yet they claim to be in the company of the Prophet when doing muraqabah.

oh yeah, their amir of my local area was chosen because some fana this fana that brothers saw through kashf that he was very advanced. i have known this guy as a friend for many years. this guy is a druggie. i have seen him buying drugs twice and he also admitted to me that he smokes drugs. this is their amir chosen through kashf because of his piety.

these are only some of the things. the things that i have mentioned can be checked and verified. i know other things as well but will not mention them as they cannot be checked.

oh one more thing that will need checking. i have a translation of a small part of Shah Nimatullah's (ra) prophecy. it was given by the owaisi guys. in the translation it mentions the name awan. they say that this is about akram awan. but i have heard that this is a fabriation and that awan is not found in the original prophecies of Shah Nimatullah (ra). it would be good if someone can check this.

if what you are saying is true these are very serious grounds to think about .... i know that they have connections in the army as there are alot of x army personal in the silsila .... but i have my doubt about the army of pakistan too coz what they propogate is not really islamic in any way as most of army personal are so called moderate musalman (i dont agree with the term at all) .... so what happened after the split if you know or may be saqfu can shed some light

[xs11ax]

if what you are saying is true these are very serious grounds to think about .... i know that they have connections in the army as there are alot of x army personal in the silsila .... but i have my doubt about the army of pakistan too coz what they propogate is not really islamic in any way as most of army personal are so called moderate musalman (i dont agree with the term at all) .... so what happened after the split if you know or may be saqfu can shed some light

saqfu will tell you. i know a little but no point telling you as it cannot be verified. but the things i wrote about CAN be verified. go to munara and see for yourself.

the portrait thing can be seen on youtube when he is giving lectures.

[mujahid101]

xs11xa how do u contact the moderators

did you get my email brother