Terms ?

[outofplace_12]

Im really sorry but i just have to comment about this.

First of all I would like to extend my SALAM to all Brothers and Sisters out there.

Im just a little confused about the terms people are using here,

"Mufti" "Maulana" etc...

Maulana < this name is not even allowed to be used by us. :-|

Mufti < theres only one MUFTI in Saudi Arabia < Take Note > Saudi Arabia has the most number of Islamic Scholars , addition to that ,they have the most authentic knowledge preserved specially in the Two Holy Cities Makkah and Madinah.

And yet i find too many Muftis here posted as allibies and proofs :-| LOL..
No offense , i know im new here but i think something is really wrong.

[ILM_Sika]

How was I supposed to know that? O.o thanks though you been great *thumbs up*

[abdulwahhab]

It is not true at all that the most authentic knowledge is found in Saudia nor is it true that the most scholars are found in Saudia. Most scholars are from the Indian subcontinent - the fact that many scholars found not only within the Indian subcontinent but also in the West are also from the Indian subcontinent is proof enough for that. Not to mention the population difference between the Arab world and the Indian subcontinent. About 20% of Muslims are Arabs. The remaining 80% are non-Arabs. A big chunk of that are from South Asia, at least 40% of all Muslims.

The term "Mufti" that is used outside of the Arab world is given to any shaykh that has the knowledge and ability to pass fatwas. I assume the same thing about the term "Mawlana" because I haven't really come across many Arabs using this term. Mawlana is similar to calling someone a shaykh in the Arab world.

[abuhajira]

Im really sorry but i just have to comment about this.

First of all I would like to extend my SALAM to all Brothers and Sisters out there.

Jazak allah for the salam, you may type ": salam :" without spaces to write the proper salam.

Im just a little confused about the terms people are using here,

If its a confusion, then you should not be making judgements. If its the judgemental post, then you ought to be reasonably sure about the aspec so as not to be confused about it.

Maulana < this name is not even allowed to be used by us. :-|

Then the sahaba should have corrected Nabi for calling Zaid bin Haritha r.a as Maulana or giving Ali r.a as Maulana in the famous narration. The issue has been discussed and there is nothing to roll the eyes about. Take it as opportunity to learn more about the deen.

please see : http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...LANA-quot-mean

Mufti < theres only one MUFTI in Saudi Arabia

a. And ....why should that matter? Saudi also has monarch kingdom, Kuffar forces to aid them, complete opression of non saudi especially "hindis"... So should we take all that as a part of our Sharia?
b. Mufti simply means one who gives a verdict. In time of Sahaba there was a seperate Mufti for every area, but some places had more than one mufties as well. They didnt take the title of mufti, but they issued verdicts.

< Take Note > Saudi Arabia has the most number of Islamic Scholars ,

Again, I think you are mistaken here as well. Please broaden your scope and look outside the saudi bubble. You will be schocked at the amount of scholarship outside the realm of Saudia.

addition to that ,they have the most authentic knowledge preserved specially in the Two Holy Cities Makkah and Madinah.

That is a matter of perspective, isnt it? you have just ruled out anything besides the haramayn as being not "the most authentic". As if it is not possible to have authentic knowledge outside haramayn. Anyway, that is your perspective. Usools of Shariah are there and we can see through those usool whose knowledge is authentically established and whose is not.

And yet i find too many Muftis here posted as allibies and proofs :-| LOL..

Because they have trained well under their teachers and spent time to learn the art of issuing verdict. Although the academic title of mufti is just for the awaam to realize the level of these ulama, the ulama themselve understand the usage of the title well. On our forum, Ulama or Mufties do not attribute these titles to themselves, rather it is done by the mods after having known that they are qualified Scholars or Mufties.

No offense , i know im new here but i think something is really wrong.

None taken, but you need to learn some more about the world of Islamic Academia.

P.S

a. You may not "bold" or "center" your whole post as it violates the rules of the forum. Just write normally, we understand the post. You may occasionally use bold to emphasize but not the whole post.
b. Your signature violates the rules, either change it or remove it. Otherwise we will be forced to do it ourself.
c. Since you are new here, Welcome to the forum. please read the rules so you and us both may benefit from each other inshallah

[Sulaiman84]

for explaining, Maulana Sahib.

[Mishkaat]

They use maulana for you when a boy/man finishes his scholar course he gets given the title of moulana
just like how you Arabs say saiyi'di (leader) its just out of Respect not in the terms of... how can i phrase it ummm like how you say Lord or other word regarding Allah (swt)
The tilte is given because of their knowledge that they have like for eg... i'm studying the Alima course
(scholar course) which consists of learning Arabic the meaning of the Qura'an and the tafsir & hadith inshallah Now i'm in my final year alhumdulillah (after 5 years of learning ) so i will study Sahiih bhukari , Muslim, Tirmizi, Ibn majah, Nasai so inshallah year some time when i graduate meaning when i get given my sanaad (certificate) it will say.... Mualimaah Anisa,.....& i'll get a white scarf worn from my teacher!
so likewise when a boy learns the ilmi knowlegde i'd say us mainly Asians when they give him the sanaad it will say Eg Moulana Ahmed....... & usually the teacher makes them wear an white ammamah!
and if hes done 2 years more of the mufti course his teacher will decide if hes got the thing to give fatwas then he'll get the title eg Mufti ibrahim....
i dont blame u for getting confused in England theres so many scholars especially where i live i leicestershire its heart where scholars are from because of so much deen Alhumdulillah that people even call it mini saudi Aabia as a lot of thing s are easily found halal here!

salaam alykum i hoped that helped .... ;ps remember me in ur duas in these blessed Night & i only have a few days to go back to my boarding school!

[Aram]

i have actually heard a talk by ustadh murtaza khan (salafi) who mentions people referring to him as maulana but he doesn't seem to have an issue with it

[abuhajira]

All offtopic discussion has been moved to : http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...e-study-course

[outofplace_12]

MAULANA IS USED BY A MASTER TO HIS SERVANT , A SERVANT TO HIS MASTER, thats the only occasion i know it was allowed to be used.

Aside from that didnt know that it was allowed to call a knowleadgeable person by that title.
SAyyid is another term which also has some excemptions.

Qumu lisayyidikum < is only allowed to that certain man from ansar , and the used of it have been forbidden in a certain hadith.

SAYYID "which meant gentleman is another meaning that doesnt include in what i wanna know.

Anyways nice site .

and sorry for my first confusing post.

--Oh the one who replied that the most authentic knowledge will be found in india -- i disagree about that.
Im not saudian , but i did read some books.

[Saeed M]

Please do not continue to post in bold italics. It makes it much more difficult to read your posts.

MAULANA IS USED BY A MASTER TO HIS SERVANT , A SERVANT TO HIS MASTER, thats the only occasion i know it was allowed to be used.

Aside from that didnt know that it was allowed to call a knowleadgeable person by that title.
SAyyid is another term which also has some excemptions.

I hope you understand that it is permissible now that Maulana Abu Hajira has corrected you.

--Oh the one who replied that the most authentic knowledge will be found in india -- i disagree about that.
Im not saudian , but i did read some books.

Although we all respect the Haramayn as the founding cities of Islam, it does not necessitate that scholarship will always reside in those places. Allah grants knowledge to whichever area He wishes. The concentration of knowledge moves around to different places and has done so in the past, e.g.

Iraq - around the time of Imam Abu Hanifah, Sufyan Thawri, and many others
Bukhara and surrounding area - around the time of Imam Bukhari, Tirmizi and many others
Egypt
Spain
Damascus
The Indian subcontinent