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    Default Re: What Madhab did the six major hadith collectors follow?

    Quote Originally Posted by rqsnnt View Post
    As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

    Alhamdulillah. Very important information.

    Bother one question more
    What is murji'?

    salam
    MashaAllah, very beneficial. One very important question though. Why do you keep running away from the questions asked to you?
    پڑھ پڑھ عالم فاضل ہویا کدے اپنے آپ نوں پڑھیا نہیں
    جا جا وَڑدا مندرمسیتی کدی نفس اپنے وچ وَڑیا ای نہیں

    لڑدا ایں روز شیطان نال کدی نفس اپڑے نال توں لڑیا ای نہیں
    بلھے شاہ اسمانی اُڈدیاں پھَڑدا ایں جہڑا گھر بیٹھا اونوں پھڑیا ای نہیں

    بُھلےؔ شاہؔ


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    Default Re: What Madhab did the six major hadith collectors follow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Usman View Post
    This also explains that since the Sahabah (Radhi Allahu anhum ) Passed away by the time of Imam Bukhari, and that Imam Bukhari was born waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay later than the demise of Imam Abu Hanifah Rahimahullah, more than 4 decades to be exact, his knowledge of Fiqh compared to Imam Sahib's is next to nothing. Many students of Imam Abu Hanifah (Rahimahullah) , including Abdullah bin Mubarak Rahimahullah were amongst the people from whom Imam Bukhari (Rahimahullah) narrates the ahadeeth. So it would be childish to say that Imam Abu Hanifah (rahimahullah) did not receive the ahadeeth.

    As a side note, Allama Dhahabi In his Tadhkiratul Huffaz lists Imam Abu Hanifah Rahimahullah as one of the Huffaz of Hadeeth in Kufa.

    Above all that, the Ta'deel of Imam Abu Hanifah is Mufassar and widely accepted, while the Jarh and stupid claims against him are Mubham and hold no basis , neither in Shariah , nor in the Science of Hadeeth or Fiqh.
    As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

    Many students of Imam Abu Hanifah (Rahimahullah) , including Abdullah bin Mubarak Rahimahullah were amongst the people from whom Imam Bukhari (Rahimahullah) narrates the ahadeeth. So it would be childish to say that Imam Abu Hanifah (rahimahullah) did not receive the ahadeeth
    I agree with u that it would be childish to say i mentioned /said Imam Abu Hanifah (rahimahullah) did not receive the ahadeeth

    Salam


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    Default Re: What Madhab did the six major hadith collectors follow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Usman View Post
    MashaAllah, very beneficial. One very important question though. Why do you keep running away from the questions asked to you?

    As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

    R u muslim? Do u follow our last prophet? Then why didn't i get Beautiful ISLAMIC greeting from u? What is the problem brother? U forget 5 rights about ur muslim brothers!!! Plz always try to follow our prophet. When u get greeting from muslim, then u should response this greeting.

    Oh i don't understand Arabic!!!. If u know meaning of murji' then just answer it. It will help us much.

    Brother calm down. Let we both read following hadith & calm down.

    Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 54 :: Hadith 502

    Narrated Sulaiman bin Surd:
    While I was sitting in the company of the Prophet, two men abused each other and the face of one of them became red with anger, and his jugular veins swelled (i.e. he became furious). On that the Prophet said, "I know a word, the saying of which will cause him to relax, if he does say it. If he says: 'I seek Refuge with Allah from Satan.' then all is anger will go away." Some body said to him, "The Prophet has said, 'Seek refuge with Allah from Satan."' The angry man said, "Am I mad?"




    salam


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    Default Re: What Madhab did the six major hadith collectors follow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khali View Post


    In his Sahih, he is making tanqid of Imaam Abu Hanifa and the Hanafis by saying ''Qalaa Ba'dun'Naas'' in about 18 places, same story in his Juzz Raf ul Yadayn there is he is narrating a incident that Abu Hanifa would said to someone who made Raf ul Yadayn ''Where you not afraid that you would fly away.'' Then is narrating a report that the one who says that imaam does not increase of decrease is a people of innovation. Of course he hits on Abu Hanifa with this.

    As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu


    After reading ur posting i got something as follow

    Abdul Majeed shows that al-Bukhari, in particular, was following this particular madhhab and it was based on the principles of this school of fiqh that he refuted the ahl al-ra’i (“people of opinion”) like Abu Hanifa and others. Here are two examples of the opinions of ahl al-ra’i that al-Bukhari attempted to refute in his Sahih. [3]
    According to Abu Hanifa, khamr (“wine” or “alcohol”) is only what has been derived from grapes and concerning which both a small or large amount is forbidden. If intoxicating beverages come from sources other than grapes, the small amount that is not intoxicating is not forbidden while the large amount that is intoxicating is forbidden. Al-Bukhari included a number of chapters intended to refute this opinion, showing that the word khamr applies to all intoxicating beverages and, hence, a small or large amount of all those beverages are forbidden. The following are his chapter titles concerning this matter:” “Alcoholic drinks may be prepared from grapes and other things,” “Liquor prepared from honey,” “Alcoholic drink is that drink which disturbs the mind,” “To drink date syrup as long as it does not intoxicate.” [4]

    According to Abu Hanifa, the Friday prayer is only to be held in cities and not in small villages. To refute this view, al-Bukhari included a chapter entitled, “Offering Friday prayer in villages and towns.” [5]

    In fact, it seems that al-Bukhari included an entire “Book” in the Sahih, the Book of Tricks, just to refute the errant views of ahl al-ra’i on that topic. In that book he uses the expression, “Some people say” fourteen times. Furthermore, all of the hadith he presented in that “Book” can be found elsewhere in the Sahih; that is, the Book was not added because of a relevant hadith, since there were no new hadith, but only to refute some fiqh opinions that al-Bukhari objected to. [6]
    Does Qalaa Ba'dun'Naas mean Some people say?

    Salam


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    Default Re: What Madhab did the six major hadith collectors follow?

    Quote Originally Posted by rqsnnt View Post
    As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu


    After reading ur posting i got something as follow



    Does Qalaa Ba'dun'Naas mean Some people say?

    Salam


    Yes.


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    Default Re: What Madhab did the six major hadith collectors follow?

    Quote Originally Posted by faaltu View Post


    Has anyone read the book Ghair Muqallideen Imam Bukhari ki Adaalat mein? It answers a wide range of allegations regarding Imam Abu Hanifa being weak in Hadith, kufa being a hot bed of Fabricated Hadith.

    Inshallah will look up and translate relevant portions

    Walikum-us-salam.

    That book is good, but it can not be compared to Maqam e Abi Haneefa by Maulana Sarfraz Safdar (RA). This is the best book i have ever read, which answers all the allegations regarding Imam Abu Hanifa (RA) being weak in hadeeth, and others.

    It is a must read for any hanafi. The second best book is the 7-series Tajjaliat-e-Safdar by Maulana Ameen Safdar Okarvi (RA). It is an absolulte TREASURE.


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    Default Re: What Madhab did the six major hadith collectors follow?



    I would recommend the book, Uqoodul Jamman fee Manaqibil Imam Al-A'dham Abi Hanifata An-Numan by Muhaddith Allamah Shamsuddin Muhammad ibn Yusuf Dimashqi As-Shafi'i .

    Madania.org has a translated version of the book but the title is just called 'Abu Hanifah'.

    It's quite a bit of a read but it clears up many of the allegations made against him and the madhhab.

    Marvelous book I tell you, a must for all English readers.


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