If Isthighatha is Shirk what would you say to this quote from Imam Taqi al-Din al-Subki from Shifa’ al-siqam fi ziyarat khayr al-anam :
What would be the answer to the below quote from Imam al-Ramli from Fatāwa al-RamlīOriginally Posted by Taqi al-Din al-Subki
Know, that it is permissible and praiseworthy to perform tawassul, istighātha, and to seek
intercession through the Prophet unto his Lord . The permissibility and desirability of
this is from the matters that are well known among those who have dīn, and well known
from the Prophets and Messengers, as well as the rest of the righteous salaf, scholars, and
layman among the Muslims. Tawassul through the Prophet is permissible in every situation,
both before his creation and after it in his time in the life of this world, as well as after his
death in his time in the isthmus life, and after the resurrection on the day of reckoning and
What is the answer for the below quote from Imam Ibn Hajar Haytami from al-jawhar al-munazzamOriginally Posted by Imam al-Ramli
Istighātha (seeking aid) with the Prophets and Messengers, the Awliyā, the ‘Ulemā and
the righteous is permitted. The messengers, Prophets and the Awliyā have [the ability
to] assist after their death because the miracles of the Prophets and Awliyā are not
severed following their death. As for the Prophets, then they are alive in their graves praying and doing hajj as it has come in the reports. So assistance from them will be a miracle on their behalf; and the martyrs are also alive, and have been seen, openly killing the kuffār...
Originally Posted by Ibn Hajar Haytami
From amongst the untruths of Ibn Taymiyya which no scholar before him had said,
and whereby he created dissent between the people of Islām, is that he denounced
tawassul and istighātha (seeking aid) through him ; and that is not as he had decreed
(i.e. that it is impermissible). Rather, tawassul through him is hasan (good) in every
state: before his creation and after his creation, in the dunya and in the ākhira...
All the above quotes were obtained from w w w. M A R I F A H . n e t.
If Istighatha is shirk, then why all these illustrious scholars of past failed to know it?
Were they ignorant of Tawheed and Shirk?